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Conference bulova::decwindows

Title:	DECWINDOWS
Notice:	DECwindows Motif V1.2-4 SSB kits: note 5519
Moderator:	GRIM::MESSENGER

Created:	Wed Nov 28 1990
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	5861
Total number of notes:	24081

5777.0. "VMS-HTTPserver: CGI and CDE" by ZUR01::JAUNIN (www2000: click and dispair) Fri Feb 14 1997 10:33

Cross posted in MOTIF:

I got a good question from customer. They are evaluating a project for an
INTRAnet at a site based on an VMS HTTP Server under Motif 1.2-4 CDE. He will 
use Netscape for VMS, but I think the main question is not the Browser...

Since the Situation (and question) might be complex. I tried to track it down 
to some simple questions:

  - What could be used to create cgi-bin scripts (on VMS!)? PERL,...?

        example: create cgi-bin scrips for database-queries, forms,... 

  - Any chances to control CDE applications directly? 

        example: to offer an online help document (HTML) with pointers to 
                 application-examples starting up.
  
Customer has a lot of experiences in programming and all the Internet-stuff. But
he has too less informations what is possible under VMS...

We don't need a solution, just some hints, tips or contacts to other groups
(people) doing consulting in that area. 

thanks
andre

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
5777.1	INTERNET_TOOLS	ZUR01::JAUNIN	www2000: click and dispair	`Mon Feb 17 1997 09:33`	3
	I'll check at the INTERNET_TOOLS conf also...(got it from MOTIF conf)...thanks andre
5777.2	Basic Web Operations: Trivial	XDELTA::HOFFMAN	Steve, OpenVMS Engineering	`Mon Feb 17 1997 11:29`	28
	This `web' stuff wouldn't be spreading like kudzu if it were difficult to use... : - What could be used to create cgi-bin scripts (on VMS!)? PERL,...? Most any language can be used. I've got DCL and C... Here's the deepest secret of CGI: it's a program or script or proceedure that writes text output using normal routines -- the text being written is just HTML tags, the same tags used to generate `static' web pages. As for data input, one can read data from the stream, or one can pass data via the `URL' specification. : - Any chances to control CDE applications directly? Yes. As mentioned, I've got DCL CGI... : example: to offer an online help document (HTML) with pointers to : application-examples starting up. :Customer has a lot of experiences in programming and all the Internet-stuff. :But he has too less informations what is possible under VMS... The OpenVMS implementation of this stuff looks and works like the UNIX stuff, and servers such as the Netscape server are often bug-for-bug compatible with the UNIX tools.
5777.3	Thanks...but...what about DTKSH	ZUR01::JAUNIN	www2000: click and dispair	`Mon Mar 03 1997 10:30`	8
	Thanks but customer wants to build a concept for different platforms where CDE is running. So they thought about doing everything _once_ and implementing all this with DTKSH (desktop korn shell). Is/will be DTKSH available for OpenVMS? Thanks andre
5777.4	Use PERL Or Java...	XDELTA::HOFFMAN	Steve, OpenVMS Engineering	`Mon Mar 03 1997 13:21`	16
	:Thanks but customer wants to build a concept for different platforms where :CDE is running. So they thought about doing everything _once_ and implementing :all this with DTKSH (desktop korn shell). As mentioned elsewere, DTKSH is not a good choice. Use PERL or Java -- something that is more portable than DTKSH... :Is/will be DTKSH available for OpenVMS? Not from DIGITAL. There may be an unsupported port around. Try a web search on the internal and external search engines, and try the integrated repository. I'd strongly recommend moving to PERL or Java, though -- if the customer likes what is possible in sh, they'll like PERL and Java...