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| 2972.1 | Stand back and watch the fun! | WRKSYS::TATOSIAN | The Compleat Tangler | Tue Apr 01 1997 03:39 | 14 |
| And you can expect 200, 233, and 250 mhz variations released within the
next couple of months...
Some of the benchmarks being reported are kicking serious sand in the
face of the P5/MMX as well as the Klamath...
Abit and ASUS have both strongly hinted that their current crop of
430-TX and -HX modules will be able to support K6 through the 233 at
least - and perhaps running the external bus at up to 83mhz (!) using
60ns EDO (!!) which could mean a 250 running 3X 83mhz (!!!)
Woof!
/dave (I *love* seeing Intel take even a small lump in the noggin' ;^)
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| 2972.2 | | NETCAD::GENOVA | | Wed Apr 02 1997 15:37 | 4 |
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Isn't competition grand. Go AMD!!
/art
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| 2972.3 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Wed Apr 02 1997 16:26 | 5 |
| Well, I went to an AMD presentation on the K6, and was not really impressed -
it was mostly vague "we're better" claims. One gotcha is that they can't
support SMP with the K6.
Steve
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| 2972.4 | Looks good, but will it work in YOUR motherboard? | JULIET::HARRIS_MA | Networks Sales Exec | Wed Apr 02 1997 17:41 | 9 |
| Actually, www.amd.com, looks real good. Should be 40% cheaper from what
I hear (vs. Intel same speed). The downside is the only motherboards
certfied by AMD are: Atrend, FIC, Gigabyte, Holco (shuttle) and
Microstar. Specific models are gievn at their web site.
So, don't run out yet and buy a new AMD200MMX K6 chip. It may not plug
into what you already have.
Mark
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| 2972.5 | | WRKSYS::TATOSIAN | The Compleat Tangler | Wed Apr 02 1997 22:01 | 17 |
| I've checked around and there are a couple of ASUS distributors that
have verified that the AMD K6 works fine on the ASUS P55T2P4 board
(that board has jumpers that support the higher-than-P55C core voltages).
The only (minor) issue is the currently *released* bios for that board
will not report the chip speed correctly (but the latest beta bios
corrects that).
As for the "no SMP support gotcha": big deal. SMP for the P55C is a
non-starter for 99% of the Pentium-class user community anyway (most of
which are running Win/WfWg or Win95 - none of which are SMP-aware
anyway)...
If you're interested in some unofficial comparative test results, see
http://www.jump.net/~lcs/k6.html
/dave
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| 2972.6 | Prices falling... | JULIET::HARRIS_MA | Networks Sales Exec | Fri Apr 04 1997 15:00 | 11 |
| Oops... two new datapoints.
1. Intel's next planned price cuts are set for April 27th. They will
happen on schedule and it appears the 166's and below will get nice
hefty cuts.
2. AMD's pricing on the streets is NO WHERE NEAR the 25-40% lower than
Intel's as promised. The AMD166MMX was $350 yesterday, and the
Intel166MMX was $354.
Mark
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| 2972.7 | price cuts? did someone say cuts?? | LEDER1::BENDEL | | Fri Apr 04 1997 16:15 | 8 |
| Curious..how do you know about the planned Intel CPU price cuts coming?
And.....any information on how significant the cuts will be?
I'm very interested...because I was planning on buying an Intel P100
at the show in manchester a week from Sunday, would waiting save me
money?
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| 2972.8 | | WRKSYS::TATOSIAN | The Compleat Tangler | Fri Apr 04 1997 22:40 | 12 |
| re: .7
I think the approximate time for the next Intel cut was mentioned when
they made their last official cut in the early fall (and announced that
they'd skip the "winter" cuts). I've been waiting myself for the April
cuts to ratchet our systems up a couple of notches.
As for whether the P100 pricing will be greatly affected: the street
price for even the BOXED P100 is already at or below $100 for the chip,
so I'd be surprised if you'll see a *remarkable* change there.
/dave
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| 2972.9 | What does it mean overall? | VARDAF::CHURCH | Dave Church@VBE (DTN 828-6125) | Mon Apr 07 1997 04:17 | 7 |
| As I ordered a P5-200 [with MMX] a week ago I'm sort of interested in
the price cuts and what this could mean...
When you're looking at a total package including [say a 17"] screen
just how much does these CPU price cuts affect the overall price?
Dave
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| 2972.10 | Top-Dog will add $500. | JULIET::HARRIS_MA | Networks Sales Exec | Mon Apr 07 1997 12:59 | 22 |
| RE: last few.
Actually, Intel skipped the November96 price cuts last year, but DID do
their February97 cuts, and at that time, indicated that their next
quarterly cuts would be carried out in April. My local Intel team gave
me the exact April 27th date.
As for CPU cost translating to overall system cost, every vendor does
it differently. Some take a baseline system, determine their profit,
and then simply 'passthru' the incremental above the baseline CPU.
Others, simply add up the total of all components, multiple by their
"1+margin", and then yield a overall system cost.
In just about all cases, you can expect to pay AT LEAST the difference
in STREET price of the CPU alone, when you upgrade from a baseline a system
configuration purchased as a whole unit.
Finally, the cost of a MMX200 is about $600 and a P100 is about $100.
SO, rule of thumb is the difference between 'barely enough' and 'Top-Dog
Performer' is about $500.
Mark
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