Conference noted::ibmpc-95

    Have you tried separating the two phone numbers with a couple of
    commas? 
    
    glen kelley

    Use the letter W to separate the FX number from the dial up number.
    This causes the modem to wait for a dial tone before dialing the second
    number like this nnn-nnnnW8,nnn-nnnn

    I used the "W" once but I didn't seperate it with a comma though.  I'll
    try that tonite.  Do I just add the number like that too:
    		nnn-nnnnW8,nnn-nnnn
    and not use the suffix?
    
    

    re: ICS::CHRISBELL
    
    I live in a backward part of Massachusetts, which only has pulse
    dialing.  I use the following dial string:
    
    ATDPmmm-mmmmWT8,nnn-nnnn
    
    Note it starts with pulse dialing then switches to tone dialing.

	

	This dialing sequence works for me using KEATERM on my laptop.
        The sequence includes the 800 access number the ten digit phone
	number and my credit card number.

	ATDT9,1800nnnnnnn,,,0nnnnnnnnnn,,,nnnnnnnnnnnnnn

	I've also used the following trick on systems with modems
	that will not let you enter a string as long as above.
	This seems to work on Hayes compatible modems and allows
	you to dial interactively.

	ATDT9,1800nnnnnnn; <------ The ";" tells the modem to take input
                                   from the terminal
	OK <------ The modem sez OK when you can type again
        ATDT0nnnnnnnnnn;
        OK
        ATDTnnnnnnnnnnnnnn <------ no ";" lets the modem do its thing

	Ken 

    I've run into some modems that don't (correctly) implement the W
    command, and for these I find that three commas (set to the default
    delay of 2 seconds) is the right incantation:
    
    nnn-nnnn,,,8,nnn-nnnn
    
    I remember some discussion about whether the pause after the '8' was
    really needed, but it doesn't appear to hurt (unless you're really
    impatient...).

    Thanx for all the info so far.  I will try these tonite when I get home
    and see if any of them work.
    
    Chris.....
    

Be aware that not all modems can handle very long dialing strings.

The modem stores the entire dialing string (up to the return character)
before acting on any of it.  If your comm. program sends it too many
characters to fit into its buffer (whose size can vary from brand to
brand), the rest drop off the end and are lost.

Some years ago, when 1200 bps was king, a 16 character command buffer
wasn't uncommon, and it could be quite hard if not impossible to handle
situations like this where you dial one phone number, wait for a second
dialtone, then another number.  Using two dial strings generally didn't
help, because the modem interprets the second string as a desire to start
over, and hangs up between the two.

In newer modems the buffers are probably much bigger so this isn't a likely
restriction ... but it's worth keeping in mind anyway.

My guess is your modem has been dialing both phone numbers all at once, and
the commas and/or "W" as suggested, should take care of that.

The "suffix" is just KEA's bookkeeping, and for making it easier for you if
you always append the same numbers on the end of your calls.  You could
spell it all out and get the exact same effect.

    I got it to work!  I used the following string:
    
    		nnn-nnnn,8-nnn-nnnn
    
    I tried it with the "W" and it still wouldn't connect.  Removed the "W"
    and all is well.
    
    Thanx for all the info...
    
    Chris.....