Conference noted::ibmpc-95

    Hi,
    How much would the following system be worth today (all together)?
    
    Hardware:
    DECpc (orig model 420sx - upgraded to 486-40 DX with overdrive chip)
    20 MB memory
    2 hard disks:
    	325 MB Western Digital
    	850 MB Western Digital
    3-1/2" Floppy
    On-board SVGA video - 1 MB video RAM
    14" Multisync Color Monitor
    3 ISA slots
    	14.4 Practical Peripherals modem
    	Media Vision Pro Audio Studio 16
    	Adapter for SCSI cable from sound card to external CDROM
    NEC 3X CDROM drive (external)
    Powered speakers
    Low profile case
    Logitech mouse
    Keyboard
    
    Software:
    Windows 95
    Office 4.0 (standard)
    
    
    Thanks,
    Paul
    

    
    
    $650-750.....
    
    
    IMHO.
    
    

    Hello,                 
    
    	I have a system that I have put together over the years and I am
    thinking of selling it, but have no idea what it is worth ( alot I hope
    ).
    
       cpu   :	pent 150mhz 256k cash
       mem   :	64mb 70ns
       drive :	1.6g western dig
       cd    :	6.7x scsi toshiba
       scsi  :	adaptec fast pci 2940
    sound crd:  sound blst  awe32
     speakers:  aui with sub woofer
    tape dr  :  tlz04? 2gb qic
    modem    :  hayes 28.8 int
    monitor  :  viewsonic 17" 17ps 1600 X 1280
    vga      :  matrox millin 2mb
    case     :  full tower
    
    Software:  w95/win nt work st 4.0  			

    
    What's an Adaptec 1542C/CF ISA SCSI Adapter worth with manuals and
    software that came with it? Since I went PCI SCSI I am going to want to
    sell this. Is $100 or so reasonable? I haven't checked on the web for
    what they're going for but will shortly.
    
    

    
    re.  .154
    
    replace the mb with a pentium board keep your  old ram.
    you'll probably get more back than what you pay.
    
    
    kaizad

    re: .last
    
    If his old ram is 72-pin and at least 70ns (preferably 60ns) I'd agree
    - but I'll bet it's 30-pin and 80ns or slower...
    

    Starion 910 for $700 they say.... here is my situatiion
    
    I have 3 320Ps, and a buy/sell old/new machines will give me $100
    a piece for them. (or maybe less).
    
    Then, (and this is my question), they have a used Starion 910 for sale:
        P-75
        16MB Ram
        850MB HDD (smalllllll)
        x4 CD (slow)
        33.6 modem (okay) (think there is a 2nd "onboard" modem 14.4 Com1)
        + speakers.....
        
    What you see is what you get.... they are asking $700.  Now, 700 less 
    my old 320ps would be $400 net.
        
        1) Anything odd about the 910, or is it terrific for $700
        2) Any better ways to transition from the 320ps.
    
    
    jff

    I don't know about the Starion, but if you advertise the 320P's here, I
    think you'd manage to get at least $100 a piece for them, if not more.
    
    I saw some mail recently where Digital was selling refurb'ed ones for
    about $250.
    
    -- Russ

    re.161  Starion 910
    
    I purchased a 911, similar config with 8MB and only the 14.4 modem but
    with all the software, warranty, etc for about $800 from PC's Complete
    last June. (Plus shipping, no tax back then)  I would think with prices
    for new multimedia pentiums in the 133MHz range as low as they are,
    $700 sound a bit high for a used slow system.
    
    If that's what you want, I'd consider giving PC's Complete a call and
    see if they have any of the old slow systems still available. EPP still
    gets you a few bucks off their published prices.
    
    Bob
     

    Hi,
    
    Any ideas how much the following system box would be worth?
    
    DECpc 333sx (386 33MHz)
    14MB RAM
    2 hard drives 180MB and 300MB
    CD-ROM Drive
    3 1/2" disk drive
    16-bit sound card
    video card
    14.4 modem
    
    
    Thanks,
    Carmie

    No monitor?
    
    Maybe $150 tops.

    I know a few people who have been unable to sell 386 systems.
    
    I'd say you have about $100 to $150 in usable parts.  Mark

    re: .164 by DEMON::BOUTIN
    re: what's a DECpc 333sx
    
    How much are you offering to have it taken off your hands?
    
    ;-)

If it's in working condition, donate it to a local school.  My son's
junior high, for example, is full of 286 systems!  They would, of course,
prefer one with a monitor.  You'd be able to take a tax deduction for a
reasonable value of the system.

				Steve

    
    How about what this is worth now?
    
    486DX4-100 w/16Mb mem 256 cache
    2Mb VLB Video
    16 bit IO
    SBPro and 2x CDRom
    1280 EIDE w/DOS & W95 installed
    desktop case (not a new one, but it works!)
    14.4 V.32bis Sportster external modem
    
    sans monitor.
    
    

        486DX4-100
        AMD processor w/ CPU cooling fan
        20 Meg RAM
        850 Meg Hard Drive
        3 1/2 + 5 1/4 drives
        2x CD-ROM drive
        14.4 bps data/fax modem
        16 bit Creative Labs sound card
        STB SVGA video card capable of 16 million colors
        14" .26 dpi SVGA monitor
        keyboard and 3 button mouse
        2 button joystick
        Labtec Amplified speakers (Still in the box)
        Windows 95 w/ lots of softward loaded
        	-Office 97
        	-AutoCAD release 12 for windows
        	-Looney toons Afterdard Screen saver
        	-Norton utilities and antivirus
        	-AND MORE
        All loaded into a full tower case.
        	-1 available bay for CD-ROM / 3 1/2 or whatever you prefer
    
    ??  what it be worth ??
    
    Darren
    

    Leaving aside the value of the software (which is worth $zero unless
    the licences are being handed over, too) the rest of the system is
    worth roughly $250-300...
    
    It's a cruel world out here in the land of $700 133mhz Pentium
    systems...

        re:  .171 & .172

    Just curious, so does it help to just 'part out'...other than the
    hassle and possibly getting stuck with a 486DX2-66 or some such
    thing?
    
    michael (have Pentium...but I do still use the Celebris!)

    "Parting out" can indeed be a hassle - especially when you're dealing
    with a system that's as far behind the current performance/feature curve 
    as the system in .171. You might have to put some actual effort into 
    unloading stuff for painfully small bucks.
    
    It may be more rewarding to find a beneficiary to donate such a system
    to (in full working condition, of course)...
    
    /dave

    >>It's a cruel world out here in the land of $700 133mhz Pentium
    >>systems...
    
    Hmmm That's a surprise to see the ilk of 133mhz Pentium systems 
    (with monitor?), now going in this price range.
    
    Bob

    re:  .171
    
    I would buy lot's of that old stuff, heck, memory is still not
    that darned cheap!  But, I know it is indeed a cruel world and
    that the advise given is all too correct.
    
    michael

>>    >>It's a cruel world out here in the land of $700 133mhz Pentium
>>    >>systems...
>>
>>    Hmmm That's a surprise to see the ilk of 133mhz Pentium systems 
>>    (with monitor?), now going in this price range.

That price must be for some no-name clone, without a monitor.  Compaq's touted
"cheap" PC costs $1000 without a monitor, and uses a 133 MHz Cyrix (not Intel)
chip.  The 14" monitor adds another $300.

    re: .last couple
    
    Sure, they're clone pricing - why pay more for a friggin' badge? If you
    think Dell/GW2K/Compaq are selling substantially superior stuff at
    anything but very the top end, you're kidding yourself.
    
    And non-MMX at that (note I said "133mhz Pentium" - not "133mhz Pentium
    MMX"). BIG price differentials there - even before yesterday's price
    cuts (where the non-MMX Pentium pricing took a major nose-dive).
    
    And yes, of course without monitor (as the 486 system  being addressed
    was also sans monitor) - so I gave an "Orange-to-Orange" comparison...
    
    Check out yer local paper for pricing. Pentiums are just plain cheap
    these days...
    
    /dave

    OfficeMax had $699 Pentium 133 machines all last week. (Without
    monitor). I don't remember the brand, but they had 16Meg ram, 1.2g, 33k
    modem, 8x cdrom, sound card. Keybrd, mouse. Win95.
    
    Prices have fallen, we all just gotta re-tool our minds...
    
    Mark

                      <<< Note 887.171 by REGENT::ROSE >>>
    
    >>  14" .26 dpi SVGA monitor
    
    Well....if this isn't a monitor then I'm looking at the wrong
    note. :-)
    
    Although, there are a lot of people who wouldn't consider a monitor
    with a screen size of 14" to be a *real* monitor. :-)
    Nevertheless, I too wouldn't expect to see a 133mhz P133 machine
    to be going for $700 even with a 3-4 year old 14" monitor thrown
    in for good luck.
    
    Bob
    
    

    Ooops! Well, even though a used 14" monitor is essentially a doorstop
    these days, I definitely missed it in the list. It's worth all of $50
    to the value of the system listed...
    
    But as was confirmed, 133mhz Pentium system - with everything *but* the
    monitor - can be had for $700. And they'll get a bit cheaper before
    they disappear completely...
    
    /dave