Conference noted::ibmpc-95

    I found it interesting that the SB32 pnp (retail package) that I picked
    up last weekend at a show came with more recent drivers than the ones
    on the Creative web site from a couple of weeks ago.  The box says
    week-40 of '96, so I'm left wondering why they don't update their site
    more often.
    
    Tony

    	It seem to me the CL does update there site often, Though the last
    update was 24-Jan-97 They have update it twice this year for NT4.0
    alone.
    http://www.creaf.com:80/wwwnew/tech/ftp/ftpnew.html
    
    Last Updated 24 Jan 97 
    
    Most recent files are listed first. 
    
     Product: 
                 Windows 3.1 - AWE64
     Filename: 
                 awe64pat.exe
     File Date: 
                 970124
     File Size: 
                 700,991 bytes
     Description: 
                 Patch Disk for AWE64 CDs for installation onto Intel
    Pentium Pro 200 and faster systems,
                 under Windows 3.x. 
                 64CD-31STA-1-US 
    
                 Please refer to README.TXT for installation details. 
    
    
     Product: 
                 Windows NT 4.0 - SB16, AWE32, SB32, AWE64
     Filename: 
                 awent40.exe
     File Date: 
                 970115
     File Size: 
                 707,681 bytes
     Description: 
                 Standalone Sound Blaster 16/AWE32/AWE64 drivers for
    Windows NT4.0 ONLY
                 SDR-NTDRV-1-US (Revision 1) 
    
                 1. Support for SoundFont 2.0
                 2. Support for AWE64 and AWE64 Gold (Software wavetable
    not included)
                 3. Support NT4.0 PnP manager.
                 4. Supports BOTH PnP and non-PnP (legacy) cards. 
    
    
     Product: 
                 3D Blaster PCI
     Filename: 
                 3dpw95up.exe
     File Date:
                 970103
     File Size:
                 126,143 bytes
     Description: 
                 Windows 95 Drivers Installation Disk for the 3D Blaster
    PCI (English version)
                 3DBP-95DRV-1-US (Revision 1)
    
                 1. Compatible with Microsoft DirectX 3.0 drivers (note:
    DirectX drivers not installed with this
                 package)
                 2. Optimized for DirectDraw and Direct3D drivers
                 3. Animated Cursor (when enabled) will not penalize
    performance in Windows 95
                 4. The date stamp of 3DBPCI.INF updated. Now Microsoft
    Windows 95 (OSR2) detects
                 this INF file and installs the new drivers.
                 5. README.TXT updated to included installation procedures
    for MS Win 95(OSR2)
                 6. Note: This package will only installs Win 95 drivers
    and does not contain any
                 applications.
    
                 Please refer to README.TXT for installation details. 
    
    
     Product: 
                                             DOS/Windows 3.1 - SB
    16/32/AWE32
     Filename: 
                                             ctcmbbs.exe
     File Date: 961218
     File Size: 702,065 bytes
     Description: Creative PnP Configuration Manager.
     CTCM-31BBS-US (Rev 3)
     Included is a MANUAL.TXT file with installation
     instructions and some FAQ on Plug-and-Play.
    
     This update include:
     1. CTCU will not try to read PnP cards with a bad
     checksum
     2. Able to test any IRQ's other than the usual 2, 5, 7
     and 10
    
     Included Drivers:
     CTCM.EXE v1.06
     CTCU.EXE v.1.07
     DIAGNOSE.EXE v4.04
     CTSB16.SYS v3.03
     SBIDE.SYS v1.19
     VIBRA16.SYS v3.03
    
    
     Product: 
                 Windows 95 - SB 16/32/AWE32
     Filename: 
                 sbw95up.exe
     File Date: 
                 961217
     File Size: 
                 291,757 bytes
     Description: 
                 SB16, AWE32, SB32 Full Duplex Driver Updates for Windows
    95.
                 SDR-95UPD-1-US (Revision 7) 
    
                 This update:
                 1. Supports AWE64 line of soundcards
                 2. Supports Microsoft DirectSound 3.0.
                 3. Supports full duplex
    
                 Included Drivers:
                 SB16SND.DRV v4.33
                 SBAWE32.DRV v4.33
                 SBFM.DRV v4.12
                 CT3DSE.VXD v4.01
                 SB16.VXD v4.33
                 SBAWE.VXD v4.33
    
    
     Product: 
                 3D Blaster PCI
     Filename: 
                 3dpb73p1.exe 
     File Date: 
                 961209
     File Size: 
                 309,672 bytes
     Description: 
                 3D Blaster PCI BIOS Upgrade (v1.00.73.1)
                 3DBP-PBIOS-1-US (Revision 1) 
    
                 This update includes:
                 * VTOOL.EXE (DOS utility which allows the user to check
    the BIOS version of the 3D
                 Blaster PCI, as well as change monitor refresh rates
    supported by the 3D Blaster PCI)
                 * BIOS recovery files(RESET.COM and AUTOEXEC.BAT) 
    
                 NOTE: Since this file contains an autoexec.bat file, DO
    NOT extract this file in your root
                 directory! Extract it in a temporary directory. 
    
    
     Product: 
                 Windows 3.x
     Filename: 
                 sbbasic.exe
     File Date: 
                 961105
     File Size: 
                 1,326,693 bytes
     Description: 
                 Sound Blaster 16/SB32/AWE32 Basic Disk for Windows 3.x
                 SDR-31STD-1-US.
    
                 This package contains the following software:
                 - Audio drivers
                 - DOS Mixer program
                 - DOS Diagnostic program
                 - Creative Mixer (Windows 3.1 version)
                 - AWE Control Panel (Windows 3.1 version - for SBAWE card) 
    
                 This package is intended for those without DOS/Win3.1
    audio software. 
    
    
    
    Copyright �1996, 1997 Creative Labs, Inc. 
    

    For existing AWE32 users, CL now has a software updrage (Creative
    WaveSynth) to bring the AWE32 up to 64 voice polyphony. There is a
    catch, however. If you are the proud owner of either an AMD or Cyrix
    CPU, then you CANNOT use this software. It must be that this software
    is using specific Intel instructions (not sure). I have posed this
    question to CL, as well as whether an AWE64 would work in a system with
    an non Intel CPU. Just thought I would pass the word.

Creative Labs' drivers have been a frustration to me of late.

If I use the old drivers, everything works, but some narrowly defined
animations are very jerky (Virtual Encounters and Cinemania -- on a P-166,
64MB, 7200 RPM wide SCSI drive, PCI SCSI controller, 4MB Number 9
Motion-771 Video card and an 8x Toshiba IDE CD-ROM, and I get jerky
animation!).

If I use their latest "full duplex" drivers, no problems with animations,
but .WAV intensive applications (games, like Full Tilt pinball) crash the
driver to the point that I get no .WAV files until I reboot.

Anyone got any suggestions?

 Does Creative Labs make a cable that allows the  SB16 to connect to
 both a joy stick and to a midi keyboard?  I have been looking for the
 part number to no avail.  It could be that this product is something
 more than just a cable.

 Bruce

Yes, they do - it's just a cable.  Dunno where to find it, though.

				Steve

Gravis also makes one.  (I have one in use on my home system).
You might check a bookstore for a book that shows the diagram
for the box.  It's pretty simple, you just need a couple of
opto-isolators.  One of the joystick port's pins is the MIDI
out and another the MIDI in.

 I don't really want to build this adapter, I would prefer
 to just have a part number and buy it!

 Actually son #2 has a computer with a SB16 with a MS joy 
 stick.  Son #1 has a fancy music keyboard with a midi
 port.  The two of them would like to plug the systems
 together once in awhile.  

 I thought that Adaptec used to call it an MP---, but I am
 unable to locate such a part number.

 Bruce

    Well, my SB16 manual says "a Y-cable is available from Creative Labs
    (Y-cables from other manufacturers may not work)."
    
    				Steve

>    Well, my SB16 manual says "a Y-cable is available from Creative Labs
>    (Y-cables from other manufacturers may not work)."
    
  Probably true but I'm using the Y-cable/box I got for my PAS16 on my
  Soundblaster.  At least the MIDI part works.  Since I don't play computer
  games I can't say out it works for a game controller thingy.

  	mikeP

    I think you can order it directly from www.creaf.com  look at their
    customer dervice phone numbers (800-number) and call it. I called the
    other day to order a new set of disks for my soundblaster, and as I
    remeber, the recording said "accessories" were available as well.
    
    Mark

    Need help,  Just upgrade my old sound blaser with the sb16 pnp.  Can
    not find a way to disable the joystick port using software.  We have
    tried the procedures in .354 with out any help.  System is running
    windows 95 and game card that is not pnp.  The current joy stick will
    not work with sb16.  Thanks in advance  Tom P.

re <<< Note 560.369 by FABSIX::T_PLAHM >>>

I don't know if this will help, but open up control panel and double-click on
the Multimedia Icon. Select the Advanced tab and click the Joystick device
you want to disable. There should be a checkbox labeled "disable this device".
Try checking it and see what happens.

    Hot from the Creative Labs web site
    
    http://www.creaf.com/wwwnew/tech/ftp/ftp-sb16awe.html#95
    
    sbw95up.exe
          File Date: 970428
          File Size: 300,664 bytes
          Description: Full Duplex Sound Blaster 16/SB32/AWE32/AWE64 Driver
    		       Updates for Win95 (Revision 9)
    
                     SDR-95UPD-1-US 
    
                     1. Add the support of copying sbawe32.drv into the
    			sysbckup directory. 
                     2. Better DirectX 3.0 support. Driver is now DirectX
    			Certified. 
                     3. Improved APM support. 
                     4. Using Modulation LFO to set Filter Cutoff will not
    			affect Vibrato. 
    
                     Please refer to the file README.TXT for installation. 
    
                     Included Drivers:
                     SB16SND.DRV v4.34
                     SBAWE32.DRV v4.33
                     SB16.VXD v4.35
                     SBAWE.VXD v4.33 
    
    Haven't installed this yet (scheduled for this weekend)...
    
    Cheers
    
    /dave

re .1

I tried this, but it wasn't a new version, as far as I could see!

Greg

    	I install this and under CP/Multimedia/Audio/Advance/Settings, 
    indeed it was Version 4.34.20
    
    	Also the updated files correspond to the new driver under System/Device
    Manager/Sound~/Driver~