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Title:File Shelving
Moderator:COOKIE::HOLSINGER
Created:Mon Mar 15 1993
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:346
Total number of notes:1204

322.0. "Help -- starting to use HSM" by CHOWDA::GLICKMAN (writing from Newport,RI) Fri Feb 21 1997 09:48

    Hi,
    
    	A RW552 jukebox just arrived at this customer site.  
    Several of the analysts here are beginning to look at using it and 
    are somewhat confused.  They don't have plan and don't understand
    what software is required to use the jukebox as an archive solution.
    Can someone give us some idea as to how to go about setting it up?
    The analysts don't seem clear on a path to take.
    
    	They showed the Media and Device Management Services for OpenVMS
    Guide to Operations and the title page named three software
    products:
    
    	Media and Device Management Services for OpenVMS Version 2.7
        VAX Jukebox Control Software Version 1.0 or higher
        DCSC for OpenVMS Version 2.0A or higher
    
    	The latter two are optional from what the title page says.
    
    	But again which of the above do they need to be able to use
    the jukebox for archiving purposes?
    
    	Another thing that was pointed out to me is that the one
    CD disk that came with the jukebox is HP Rewritable Optical Disk 2.6
    Gbytes.  This jukebox is to be used in an OpenVMS VAX environment.
    Did the customer get the right jukebox??
    
    	Definitely appreciating any assistance with these issues and
    I'm sure we will have plenty as we get it going.
    
    
    
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322.1STOWKS::SLUISHans van Sluis -- Storage Engineering Support Europe- DTN 889 9526Mon Feb 24 1997 01:0916
Well,

Your first problem is how to connect the RW552. You have 2 options :
1) Directly connected SCSI. Adapters are KZPSA, KZPAA. If distance is an
   issue, select the differential interface and KZPSA adapter.
2) Behind an HSx-controller. You'l have to wait till HSOF V3.1/5.1 comes out;
   otherwise your config isn't supported.

Your second problem is to install OSMS. You'll need version 3.4, which you'll 
have to order from SSB. The kit is *NOT* on the network.

If you've done all that, you have to install HSM. There are examples in the
'Guide of Operations' on how to get HSM to work with opticals. 
Tip: You do *NOT* need "Media and Device Management Services" at all.

Hans
322.2TAPE::SENEKERHead banging causes brain mushMon Feb 24 1997 08:0918
    RE: .0
    
    A 2.6 GB optical disk will work with the RW552 but if you are going
    to drive the RW552 via OSMS V3.4 the largest media you can use is the
    2.3 GB optical disk.
    
    Please note:  The optical media for RW5xx hardware is not "CD".
    
    
    RE: .1
    
    Hans,
    
    Is there a relationship that HSM has with HSx-controllers?  I do not
    understand your statement about waiting for HSOF V3.1/5.1 if the
    RW552 is going to be driven by OSMS V3.4.
    
    Rob
322.3More questions...CHOWDA::GLICKMANwriting from Newport,RIWed Feb 26 1997 14:0716
>>> 2) Behind an HSx-controller. You'l have to wait till HSOF V3.1/5.1 comes 
>>> out otherwise your config isn't supported.

    It will be used via CMD's Trident controllers.  I have someone at the
    customer site seeing if the RW552 can be used with these controllers
    and if their firmware is up to rev.
    
>>> Your second problem is to install OSMS. You'll need version 3.4, 
>>> which you'll have to order from SSB. The kit is *NOT* on the network.

    This doesn't come on the CONSDIST?  Would the customer have known to
    order it?  So would they have gotten it already?  If not, what is the
    part number?
    
Thanks for all your help.
322.4More discussionCHOWDA::GLICKMANwriting from Newport,RIThu Feb 27 1997 07:2710
    
   .3 continued
    
    When the customer checked with CMD, the RW552 has not been tested with 
    their Trident controller either and asked if the customer goes for it to
    let CMD know how it goes.  So we are considering using a port on an HSJ
    although we would have to do some shuffling.  So I do need to know if
    I need the HSOF V3.1/5.1 to get the job done and when it will be
    available. 
    
322.5Still not sure about this whole thingCHOWDA::GLICKMANwriting from Newport,RIFri Feb 28 1997 10:2927
    Still more questions.
    
    	The functionality this customer is looking for is to have an
    archive policy that moves data that fits the archive criteria 
    from their disk farm of RZ28s (online available mass storage) to
    the archive media which is the RW552 optical jukebox with 64
    2.3 GB MO disks. 
    
    	The analyst looking into this has been reading  the POLYCENTER
    HSM OpenVMS Guide for Operations.  He has found that the supported
    devices for this type of operation is really some type of tape media.
    MO devices are supported as the cache device rather than  the nearline/
    offline media.  I am writing this message to confirm this finding. As
    in did management here not purchase the complete solution for their
    needs?
    
    Based on what the customer has already purchased (RW552 optical
    jukebox, OSMS, and HSM) and running on OpenVMS 6.1 VAX is there anyway
    to implement a supported archiving solution?
    
    At this point in time we have no magnetic disks or tape devices that can
    be dedicated to HSM. 
    
    Do I need to be putting this into the Optical notes conference as well?
    
    Appreciating any inputs.