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Conference clt::wild_birds

Title:Birders Like to Watch
Notice:June 1997 sightings in Note 65554
Moderator:ROCKS::ROBINSON
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:655
Total number of notes:6735

651.0. "any suggestions for nesting boxes in NH?" by TLE::JRICHARD () Wed Mar 12 1997 09:14

I have a few books that mention nesting boxes in passing, but this
is the first year I've had a yard so I can start putting up my
own birdhouses. :)

We got a bluebird box and a couple boxes that have woodpecker/swallow
sized holes.

One book mentions that you should saw off the perch (if there is one)
since the English Sparrows will sit on it and kick native birds out.
Is this true?

Is it OK to hang the houses from rope (except the bluebird house)?
I was afraid to attach it to a tree since we have lots of squirrels,
racoons, etc... around.

I saw Robins this morning for the first time this year!
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651.1Break their teethROCKS::ROBINSONSeasonally adjustedThu Mar 13 1997 08:1212
    Perches are not necessary so saw them off anyway - you don't see birds
    at a natural nest perching right by the hole, that's a dead giveaway. As 
    for whether they aid English Sparrows to evict residents, I somehow doubt 
    it - lack of a perch certainly doesn't stop them nesting in a box in
    the first place and I can't see what help they get from one in usurping
    an occupier. They just move in!
    I don't think ropes would help against squirrels - they'd just climb
    down them. If you did use them you'd have to use 3 or 4 to stop it
    spinning. Boxes made of concrete are very effective against squirrels -
    can you get them in the US? 
    
    Chris
651.2haven't seen any tenants though..BIGQ::GARDNERjustme....jacquiThu Mar 13 1997 09:013
    Concrete birdhouses are available in the states.  I have one
    hanging in a tree by a rope!  ;*)  
651.3Concrete birdhouses?!?TLE::JRICHARDFri Mar 14 1997 08:2612
This is a joke right?

What about a concrete birdhouse would discourage squirrels?
They didn't seem to mind living in my parents basement or 
garage (both concrete foundations).

In any case, I was more concerned with the squirrels and raccoons
getting their little paws into the birdhouse and having baby
bird breakfast (this is what happened to my birdhouse attempts
in Medford, MA).

651.4What is your inside leg measurement, Mr. Squirrel, Sir?ROCKS::ROBINSONSeasonally adjustedTue Mar 18 1997 08:5911
    I am a deeply serious person. I do not make jokes. 
    The concrete boxes are very effective against squirrels - they find it
    very difficult to chew. Also, as the boxes have a front that slides into
    place rather than a conventional hinging lid, they can't get in that
    way either. I presume racoons would have the same problem.
    If your squirrels/racoons were hooking young out through the hole, I
    suggest that the hole was too near to the bottom of the box - 5" was a
    minimum figure I read recently. That sounds like an arm's length plus 
    a bit to me.  
    
    Chris
651.5BIGQ::GARDNERjustme....jacquiWed Mar 19 1997 08:3814
    I am also serious about concrete boxes and feeding stations
    being available.  Whether they are very popular here in the
    states is another story.  I have one of each in my backyard
    birding system.  I must admit that the nesting box has not
    been habited as yet...maybe this year!  ;*)  The feeding
    station has wooden dowel perches that the fuzzy furfaces have
    enjoyed munching on so i think a complete removal of them
    this year is in order.  

    justme....jacqui

    p.s. Wildbirds Unlimited was where I picked up my concrete!

651.6CSTMSO::WILBURWed Mar 19 1997 15:5310
    
    
    
    	.4 Squirrel eat young birds?
    
    	I thought the concrete box was to discourage them from chewing
    	the opening large enough for them to move in and take the box
    	as thier own home.
    
    					
651.7How big is your box?ROCKS::ROBINSONSeasonally adjustedTue Mar 25 1997 07:124
    Re .6
    Be a kinda tight fit wouldn't it?
    
    Chris
651.8TLE::JRICHARDTue Mar 25 1997 08:509
>    	.4 Squirrel eat young birds?

Well, they do in Medford, MA.  The raccoons would try at dusk
and the squirrels would try in the morning.  Eventually they got
them all.  Fortunately, they were English Sparrows.

That box didn't have a 5 inch depth from the entrance hole.  Now
I know why it's needed!  Thanks...

651.9bad squirrelsNETCAD::CREEGANFri Mar 28 1997 13:0810
    I've seen steel sheets with a hole in the middle
    that you can add to the doorway of your bird boxes.
    Four nails or screws in each corner of the sheet is
    all you need.  The squirrel can't chew on that to
    enlarge the opening large enough for it to get in
    and eat the clutch.  They are available at wild bird
    food stores.
    
    I had a family of chickadees destroyed by a hungry
    squirrel.  I was heart-broken.