Conference noted::excursion

    Does boxy equate to the standard VT100 line-drawing characters.  (Like
    the ones you see when you run notes in character cell mode.)  Or are
    they just badly formed text characters.  (Pieces missing, for example.)
    
    Are there any badfont messages in the eXcursion message log?  (Compare
    timestamps to make sure you're not picking up badfont messages from
    other applications.)
    
    What font directories are listed in the fonts tab in the eXcursion
    control panel?
    
    #Gary

>    Does boxy equate to the standard VT100 line-drawing characters.  (Like
>    the ones you see when you run notes in character cell mode.)  Or are
>    they just badly formed text characters.  (Pieces missing, for example.)

	Badly formed glyphs.  Best I can describe them are that they
	are mostly white, with little pieces of black in the 
	corners.  The character itself is "seeable", but each glyph
	is a little over the previous glyph and so some characters are
	unintelligible.  Note that this looks like glyphys for which the
	background is not transparent.
>    
>    Are there any badfont messages in the eXcursion message log?  (Compare
>    timestamps to make sure you're not picking up badfont messages from
>    other applications.)

	Nope.  I just turned logging on and brought up the News
	window again.  No messages.
>    
>    What font directories are listed in the fonts tab in the eXcursion
>    control panel?

	./fonts/misc

    
    	Note I have the same problems when bringing up the Bookmarks
    	window (to rearrange my bookmarks).
    
    

    Yuck!
    
    I just looked at 3.0 news.  What a mess.
    
    It looks less to me like a font problem and more of an area fill
    problem.  On my system I get a series of black and white checks in the
    "Unread" column.  It looks like a repeating, 1-plane deep,
    white-on-black duplicate of whatever is in the the Green checkmark
    column.  (A check if the check is there, a dot if it's cleared.)
    
    Similarly, the "Name" column has ghosts of the little PC and news items
    icons, normally found in the first column.
    
    FWIW, the problem is seen in the VMS version of Netscape 3.0 as well.
    I sit about 30 feet from one of the VMS netscape developers, I'll see
    if we can find out what's going on in those columns.
    
    #Gary
    

    2.1 does not have this problem but when I viewed it with 2.1 I notice
    that at least some the characters that are causing this problem are bolded.
    Don't know if that's significant.
    
    #Gary

    If you believe this an excursion problem, please qar it with specifics
    of how to reproduce.  (if I have to install netscape, say in qar from
    where I install it)
    
    Thanks.
    
    /Eric

    
    	Ok.  Entered as QAR 530.
    
    	I made it a show stopper because it really is bad.  Makes news
    	reading and bookmarks editing (and who knows whatever else)
    	impossible.

    We asked one of our engineers (Boris) to look at it. I told him
    to verify with you that you did the font alias stuff that the excursion
    release notes talk about for CDE (are you using CDE on your unix ?)
    
    /Eric

    
    	No one (like Boris) has contacted me yet, but again, I'm 
    	running Netscape *TO* my NT box, so there's no CDE involved
    	(at least, I don't *think* so...)
    
    

    Right.  At least on my PC, I'm not hitting the Dux system with XDMCP
    and therefore am not starting CDE.  Just 3.0 Gold from Dux.  Or 3.0b5
    from Alpha OVMS.
    
    #Gary

    
    	Gee, any update here?  Sure would like to fix my bookmarks list....
    
    

The other engineer here has checked in a fix for this problem.
We don't have an image online yet though for you to test.

/Eric