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Conference noted::excursion

Title:	note 3 has pointer to current kit
Notice:	note 3 has pointer to current kit
Moderator:	PEACHS::GHEFF

Created:	Wed May 29 1991
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3301
Total number of notes:	14905

3236.0. "Creative/terminal/amnesia" by WONDER::WILLARD () Thu Feb 20 1997 08:56

	Seems silly, but I don't know my name - nodename, that is.

	I'm trying to duplicate the eXcursion environment I have on my
	inside PC on my outside (home) PC.  When I log into VMS from
	'IN_PC', my login.com creates some "downhill" X-windows by a
	sequence of:

	  $ set disp/create/transport=tcpip/node=IN-PC
	  $ create/term/blahblahblah

	When I do this for 'OUT-PC', set disp works, but create/term
	complains that it can't open display.  It appears that I don't
	know the right string to use for 'OUT-PC'.  I tried the value
	listed as Computer Name in the eX control panel, and some variants
	thereof, but nothing helps.

	Is there a permanently-assigned value for 'OUT-PC', or is this
	method of creating "downhill" X-windows undoable via MS DUN?

Cheers, Bob

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
3236.1		TARKIN::LIN	Bill Lin	`Thu Feb 20 1997 09:27`	20
	re: WONDER::WILLARD Hi Bob, Long time no see... The chances are good that your 'OUT-PC' IP address is assigned dynamically via DHCP and is possibly different every time you dial in. I believe you can start your X clients by using the eXcursion control panel on your PC side. That way, you won't have to know your own address. Another suggestion I have, if you mostly use X for DECterms, is to select a terminal emulation program that supports telnet. A couple of good choices (IMO) are vt320e (aka VTstar) or PowerTerm. Both are free for internal use. Cheers, /Bill
3236.2	Kludge tower warning	WONDER::WILLARD		`Fri Feb 21 1997 15:11`	14
	That's it, Bill; thanks. As Bill (.1) suggests, dynamic IP address assignment complicates life. So, I hacked my VMS login.com to ask for the IP address, and I hacked a DOS .bat to snag the IP address and display it. Since the first three fields of the IP address are constant (or nearly so), as long as I can pass a couple of digits in the eyes and out the fingers without interposing them in the brain, this is tolerable. This is office automation for the '90s, right? Feels kinda like running QuillPen V7.0 under Parchment-95, with message delivery services courtesy of /transport=PonyExpress. Cheers, Bob
3236.3		BBQ::WOODWARDC	...but words can break my heart	`Thu Apr 03 1997 02:05`	8
	re: using something other than eXcursion for 'decterms'... vt320e is nice - but... no scroll-bars - and it is _such_ a pain when what you wanted to see just scrolled off the top of the screen :'( dunno about PowerTerm - got a pointer? Harry
3236.4		PEACHS::GHEFF	Got a head with wings	`Thu Apr 03 1997 09:34`	1
	Find all about Powerterm in the JAMIN::PATHWORKS32 notes conference.
3236.5		JAMIN::OSMAN	Eric Osman, dtn 226-7122	`Thu Apr 03 1997 17:42`	4
	I'm confused. vt320e (vtstar) indeed has scroll bars that work well. /Eric
3236.6		VMSNET::S_VORE	Smile - Mickey's Watching!	`Fri Apr 04 1997 14:00`	4
	he probably means VT320, which in newer versions does have scroll bars but is still extremely limited. PowerTerm, imho, is a much better alternative.