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| 3631.1 | ATM MAX PDU Size is 4510 | GALVIA::thebe.ilo.dec.com::rawlings |  | Mon May 12 1997 08:44 | 27 | 
|  | 
	Andreas,
	The maximum PDU Size support by DECNIS over the W631 
	card is 4510 octets.
	It is invalid to specify 9180.
	The script compiler may well not complain, since the
	check against supported sizes is only performed on 
	the DECNIS.
	It is not possible, without major effort, to get DECNIS to
	use larger PDU sizes.
	The maximum sizes you can set are:
	Routing circuit:
		4500
	ATM PVC:
		4510
	There is no Max PDU size parameter for the ATM CON MAN LINE
		Regards,
			Mark.
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| 3631.2 | two more questions | TAGAUS::AURAND |  | Mon May 12 1997 10:03 | 20 | 
|  |     Hi Mark,
    
    many thanks for your answer.
    
    >> The maximum PDU Size support by DECNIS over the W631
    >> card is 4510 octets.
    
    According to RFC1577 this will result in changing the MTU Size to 4500
    on other nodes in the LIS or will Classical IP still work if some nodes
    have a MTU of 9180 and the DECnis uses 4500 ?
    
    >> There is no Max PDU size parameter for the ATM CON MAN LINE
    
    What I meant was the MAXIMUM PDU SIZE for the ATM MULTIPROTOCOL
    ENCAPSULATION LINK. Is this the ATM PVC (4510) - LLC Header (8 Bytes ?)
    
    	Many thanks for your help
    
    		Andreas
    
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| 3631.3 | You *may* be able to run the DECNIS at 4500, whilst the LIS uses 9180 | GALVIA::thebe.ilo.dec.com::rawlings |  | Mon May 12 1997 11:07 | 34 | 
|  | 
	Sorry,
	My misunderstanding.
	
	The max size at ATM MUL PROT ENC link is 4500.
	The requirement for all members of the LIS to use
	the same PDU size comes from the dynamic nature of 
	SVC connections and the lack of PDU size negotiation.
	When one member of a LIS needs to talk to another, it 
	'looks-up' the ATM address of the required system; creates
	and SVC; and starts transmitting.
	There is no negotiation of Max PDU size, so the Max PDU
	must be assumed to be OK. 
	This 'assumption' leads to the statement in the RFC specifying
	all LIS members should use the same Max PDU Size.
	Now, DECNIS doesn't implement SVCs and participates as 
	a member of a LIS by attaching to a partner LIS system via a PVC.
	This means that only the attached system needs to be using the
	lower size of 4500 on the Links to the DECNIS.
	If you can be sure that the system the DECNIS is attached to 
	will fragment frames for the DECNIS larger than 4500 you
	should be OK. 
	However, if not,  the full LIS will need to be brought down to
	4500.
		Regards,
			Mark
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| 3631.4 |  | TAGAUS::AURAND |  | Tue May 13 1997 05:10 | 5 | 
|  |     Hi Mark,
    
    many thanks for the explanation.
    
    	Best regards	- Andreas
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