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Title: DEC Network Integration Server (DECNIS)
Notice:Please read note 1 to use this conference effectively
Moderator:MARVIN::WELCH
Created:Wed Sep 18 1991
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3660
Total number of notes:15082

3531.0. "Unavailable Station Buffers - low CSMA-CD traffic" by SCASS1::ROCHELEAU (Rod Rocheleau - 972-527-2272) Mon Feb 03 1997 20:26

We need a little help on tracking down a ? LAN ? problem that a DECNIS 600
is reporting. This past weekend a DEChub 900 was install and three 600's were
connected to it and configured to be behind a bridge port (seperate LAN
for the 600's). Today bridging response between the site with the routers
and a remote site with systems was either jerky or disconnects were occuring
at a fairly rapid pace. We found that the DECnis was reporting Unavailable
Station Buffers at a fairly rapid pase. Re-arranging some of the configuration
on the 900 helped alleviate the jerky response and the disconnects but the
Unavailable Station Buffers are still occuring at about 12 per second. This is
after prime time and the CSMA-CD station is reporting less than 200 PDU's
per second.

I have looked in the log files and do not see any events concerning CSMA-CD
devices but the system could have rolled over and quit logging with that
level of errors being reported.

Any ideas on what to look at, the router is on the network and can be quired.
Note: it;s currently running 2.3.14 and as soon as we can get a CLD worked
we will be upgrading to 3.1.9 or 4.0.2.

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The following is a snap of the CSMA-CD Station and Port's

ncl> sho node schns1 csma-cd sta * all count

Node schns1 CSMA-CD Station L601-3-0 
AT 1997-02-01-18:37:21.339-06:00I-----
Snapshot Elapsed Time = +0-00:00:12.820I-----



                              Current             Snapshot           Difference
                              -------------------------------------------------
Counters

    Octets Received                       = 
                           4539653532           4539413919               239613
    Octets Sent                           = 
                           1625762451           1625683710                78741
    PDUs Received                         = 
                             24877864             24876174                 1690
    PDUs Sent                             = 
                             21051550             21050393                 1157
    Multicast Octets Received             = 
                           1333997869           1333926895                70974
    Multicast Octets Sent                 = 
                            447451576            447414379                37197
    Multicast PDUs Received               = 
                              7210337              7210061                  276
    Multicast PDUs Sent                   = 
                              2216304              2216036                  268
    Initially Deferred PDUs Sent          = 
                               384176               384149                   27
    Single Collision PDUs Sent            = 
                               103537               103533                    4
    Multiple Collisions PDUs Sent         = 
                               118769               118765                    4
    Excessive Collisions                  = 
                                   15                   15                    0
    Carrier Check Failures                = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Late Collisions                       = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Collision Detect Check Failures       = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Frame Check Errors                    = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Frame Size Errors                     = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Send Data Length Errors               = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Alignment Errors                      = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Frames Too Long                       = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Receive Data Length Errors            = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Unrecognized Individual Destination PDUs = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Unrecognized Multicast Destination PDUs = 
                                    2                    2                    0
    Data Overruns                         = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Unavailable Station Buffers           = 
                               441198               441054                  144
    Unavailable User Buffers              = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Station Failures                      = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Creation Time                         = 1997-01-30-09:56:17.929-06:00I-----

ncl> snap node schns1 csma-cd port * all count

Node schns1 CSMA-CD Port $port_0 
AT 1997-02-01-18:38:16.749-06:00I-----

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Node schns1 CSMA-CD Port $port_1 
AT 1997-02-01-18:38:16.879-06:00I-----

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Node schns1 CSMA-CD Port $port_2 
AT 1997-02-01-18:38:17.009-06:00I-----

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Node schns1 CSMA-CD Port $port_3 
AT 1997-02-01-18:38:17.139-06:00I-----

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Node schns1 CSMA-CD Port $port_4 
AT 1997-02-01-18:38:17.259-06:00I-----

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Node schns1 CSMA-CD Port $port_5 
AT 1997-02-01-18:38:17.399-06:00I-----

ncl> show node schns1 csma-cd port * all count

Node schns1 CSMA-CD Port $port_0 
AT 1997-02-01-18:38:30.439-06:00I-----
Snapshot Elapsed Time = +0-00:00:13.690I-----



                              Current             Snapshot           Difference
                              -------------------------------------------------
Counters

    Octets Received           = 
                                 2300                 2300                    0
    Multicast Octets Received = 
                                 2300                 2300                    0
    Octets Sent               = 
                              7753862              7753330                  532
    Multicast Octets Sent     = 
                              7753862              7753330                  532
    PDUs Received             = 
                                   46                   46                    0
    Multicast PDUs Received   = 
                                   46                   46                    0
    PDUs Sent                 = 
                               204049               204035                   14
    Multicast PDUs Sent       = 
                               204049               204035                   14
    Unavailable User Buffers  = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Creation Time             = 1997-01-30-09:56:39.199-06:00I-----

_______

Node schns1 CSMA-CD Port $port_1 
AT 1997-02-01-18:38:30.569-06:00I-----
Snapshot Elapsed Time = +0-00:00:13.690I-----



                              Current             Snapshot           Difference
                              -------------------------------------------------
Counters

    Octets Received           = 
                            637426717            637407699                19018
    Multicast Octets Received = 
                            477302718            477286983                15735
    Octets Sent               = 
                            347808925            347786438                22487
    Multicast Octets Sent     = 
                            151481664            151464181                17483
    PDUs Received             = 
                             11872628             11871306                 1322
    Multicast PDUs Received   = 
                              5507051              5506876                  175
    PDUs Sent                 = 
                              4136525              4136260                  265
    Multicast PDUs Sent       = 
                              1618935              1618729                  206
    Unavailable User Buffers  = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Creation Time             = 1997-01-30-09:56:39.209-06:00I-----

_______

Node schns1 CSMA-CD Port $port_2 
AT 1997-02-01-18:38:30.709-06:00I-----
Snapshot Elapsed Time = +0-00:00:13.700I-----



                              Current             Snapshot           Difference
                              -------------------------------------------------
Counters

    Octets Received           = 
                           1629707973           1629446570               261403
    Multicast Octets Received = 
                            632404433            632363966                40467
    Octets Sent               = 
                            928274086            928220138                53948
    Multicast Octets Sent     = 
                            287638758            287615647                23111
    PDUs Received             = 
                              6431078              6430492                  586
    Multicast PDUs Received   = 
                              1159496              1159421                   75
    PDUs Sent                 = 
                             10234461             10233516                  945
    Multicast PDUs Sent       = 
                               368137               368108                   29
    Unavailable User Buffers  = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Creation Time             = 1997-01-30-09:56:39.569-06:00I-----

_______

Node schns1 CSMA-CD Port $port_3 
AT 1997-02-01-18:38:30.839-06:00I-----
Snapshot Elapsed Time = +0-00:00:13.700I-----



                              Current             Snapshot           Difference
                              -------------------------------------------------
Counters

    Octets Received           = 
                           2274733791           2274537372               196419
    Multicast Octets Received = 
                            224673266            224671866                 1400
    Octets Sent               = 
                            342413751            342383689                30062
    Multicast Octets Sent     = 
                               721420               721392                   28
    PDUs Received             = 
                              6585554              6585123                  431
    Multicast PDUs Received   = 
                               545197               545190                    7
    PDUs Sent                 = 
                              6484722              6484309                  413
    Multicast PDUs Sent       = 
                                25765                25764                    1
    Unavailable User Buffers  = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Creation Time             = 1997-01-30-09:56:39.579-06:00I-----

_______

Node schns1 CSMA-CD Port $port_4 
AT 1997-02-01-18:38:30.969-06:00I-----
Snapshot Elapsed Time = +0-00:00:13.710I-----



                              Current             Snapshot           Difference
                              -------------------------------------------------
Counters

    Octets Received           = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Multicast Octets Received = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Octets Sent               = 
                                50762                50762                    0
    Multicast Octets Sent     = 
                                50762                50762                    0
    PDUs Received             = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Multicast PDUs Received   = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    PDUs Sent                 = 
                                  681                  681                    0
    Multicast PDUs Sent       = 
                                  681                  681                    0
    Unavailable User Buffers  = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Creation Time             = 1997-01-30-09:57:04.209-06:00I-----

_______

Node schns1 CSMA-CD Port $port_5 
AT 1997-02-01-18:38:31.099-06:00I-----
Snapshot Elapsed Time = +0-00:00:13.700I-----



                              Current             Snapshot           Difference
                              -------------------------------------------------
Counters

    Octets Received           = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Multicast Octets Received = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Octets Sent               = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Multicast Octets Sent     = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    PDUs Received             = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Multicast PDUs Received   = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    PDUs Sent                 = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Multicast PDUs Sent       = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Unavailable User Buffers  = 
                                    0                    0                    0
    Creation Time             = 1997-01-30-09:57:04.929-06:00I-----


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3531.1Fixed in V3.1-8 MARVIN::MCCLURETony McClure, DECnis Engineering RE02 FD9 7830-3564Tue Feb 04 1997 06:5112
Hi Rod,


	We believe that you are suffering from a multicast forwarding
	problem that we have already fixed. This fix was contained
	in the V3.1-8 fix kit release. There is no V2.3 fix 
	available for this problem.

	For us to confirm this we would need a dump from SCHNS1.

Cheers Tony.

3531.2Upgrade Planned - need help on pushing for it nowSCASS1::ROCHELEAURod Rocheleau - 972-527-2272Tue Feb 04 1997 08:4413
>>      We believe that you are suffering from a multicast forwarding
>>      problem that we have already fixed. This fix was contained
>>      in the V3.1-8 fix kit release. There is no V2.3 fix 
>>      available for this problem.

Tony,
        Could the problem that was fixed come up suddendly after a LAN
        re-configuration? I can execute a dump this evening but time
        would be better spent upgrading to 3.1.9 if we can document
        the unavailable station buffer problem.

Rod

3531.3Upgrade fixed the problemSCASS1::ROCHELEAURod Rocheleau - 972-527-2272Wed Feb 05 1997 10:096
Upgrading to x3.1.9 corrected the problem. Unavailable Station Buffers has 
stopped increamenting.

Thanks

Rod