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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

3789.0. "interoperability with Bay 28115?" by HGOM19::JERRYFAN () Mon Aug 12 1996 02:55

    Hi, all,
    
    I need your hint to solve the problem described hereafter.
    
    There is a customer in shanghai that has the network configuration as  
    below:
    
    
    		 DECswitch 900EF
    		  |   |   |   |
    		  |   |   |   |
             ------   |   |   -------
    	     |        |   |         |
        Bay28115   28115 28115    28115
        switch
    
    Bay Switch 28115 is a 16 port 100baseT/10baseT autosense switch. I 
    connected the DECswitch front 10baseT port to one of the 28115 RJ45 port 
    which I preseted to 10M mode. When the first 28115 switch connected to 
    DECswitch, everthing worked fine. When two or more 28115 connected to 
    DECswitch, the message displayed on 28115 changed from "Operating" to 
    "Configuring" and never turned back to operation. And the ping packet failed 
    to go through either pair of switches. The situation is repeatedable. I 
    guess they tried to establish spanning tree with each other but for some 
    reason failed.
    
    Then I upgrade the DECswitch900 EF to IP router with bridging enabled, with 
    the same topological connection above. Everything runs fine.
    
    Could anybody tell me the problem is because there be some interconnect 
    problem between 900ef and 28115 or I forgot sth. to setup ? Any help is 
    greatly appreciated.
    
    rgds,
    Jerry Fan
    Network Service China
     
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3789.1BAYswitch 28115 uses a non-standard spanning tree protocol..NETCAD::BATTERSBYMon Aug 12 1996 16:4221
    It's my understanding that the BAYswitch 28115 has a spanning
    tree algorithm called "Lattispan" (spelling may not be exact).
    It is a modified version of IEEE 802.1d, and defaults to this
    algorithm. Along with the use and implementation of this modified 
    version of 802.1d in the 28115, comes some other "baggage" in the 
    form of other configuration rule restrictions. Other than this 
    information, I have no other familiarity with their configuration rules. 
    Your customer should probably read the BAYswitch 28115 documentation
    shipped with the product to get more familiar with the configuration
    restrictions. There may be a way of setting the 28115 to the real
    IEEE 802.1d spanning tree rather then the BAYswitch default.
    
    Now why there should be a difference in behavior when the 900EF is
    configured with router code, I cannot answer, other than guessing 
    that maybe when using CLI to enable bridging, you didn't restart the 
    router, thus the router still didn't really have bridging enable, and 
    this could explain why the router (configured) 900EF "appeared" to work.
    One thing I do know is that both the 900EF switching firmware and
    the router firmware use the IEEE 802.1d spanning tree algorithm.
    
    Bob
3789.2solution to Bay connectivity problemNETCAD::HOPPEWed Aug 14 1996 12:3712
    Bob is exactly right......LattisSpan is causing the problem.  You must
    add two address filters to the DECswitch 900 EF to filter the
    LattisSpan packets.  The two addresses are: 010081000200 and
    010081000201.  The Bay documentation does mention this limitation
    of the Bay 28115.  Because the 28115 does not support the standard
    IEEE 802.1d spanning tree, you must place these address filters
    in any other internetworking device that connects two 28115
    switches.  This way, each 28115 in your configuration will
    consider itself to be in it's own LattisSpan community
    and won't cause other 28115s to go into configuring mode.
    
    Chris
3789.3ThanksBEJVC::PRCNISThu Aug 15 1996 02:531
    Much thanks.....jerry