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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

3541.0. "Decswitch 900EE port broken state ?" by BELFST::BELCOO::HOUSTON (Peace at last) Mon May 20 1996 06:43

Hello.

I have installed a new Decswitch 900EE in a DH900.

I eventually figured out that I needed to connect port 2 to the thinwire B/P as this 
does not happen by default. So far so good.

This DH900 is the connection between the Digital and GKN LAN's in our office. It is 
my plan to isolate the two LAN's using the Decswitch with some filtering.

The Digital LAN currently connects to the hub on a thinwire repeater.

When I try this Digital LAN connection through a TWISTER (thin to TP converter) and 
onto any of the DECswitch TP ports the respective port LED's do not leave the broken 
state. They do not register any activity at all.

The same thinwire ( through twister config ) connected to a TP repeater on the same 
HUB works OK. 

Further more when a TP cable is connected from the TP repeater above to a TP port on 
the DECswitch 900 the respective TP LED's on the DECswitch register activity.  

I cannot understand why the Digital LAN cannot connect directly to the DECswitch 900 
TP port but works fine on a TP repeater.  

Any ideas ?

Regards,

Colin Houston	751 4062
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BELFST::BELCOO::HOUSTON "Peace at last"              30 lines  20-MAY-1996 05:43
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Hello.

I have installed a new Decswitch 900EE in a DH900.

I eventually figured out that I needed to connect port 2 to the thinwire 
B/P as this does not happen by default. So far so good.

This DH900 is the connection between the Digital and GKN LAN's in our 
office. It is my plan to isolate the two LAN's using the Decswitch with 
some filtering.

The Digital LAN currently connects to the hub on a thinwire repeater.

When I try this Digital LAN connection through a TWISTER (thin to TP 
converter) and onto any of the DECswitch TP ports the respective port 
LED's do not leave the broken state. They do not register any activity 
at all.

The same thinwire ( through twister config ) connected to a TP repeater 
on the same HUB works OK. 

Further more when a TP cable is connected from the TP repeater above to a 
TP port on the DECswitch 900 the respective TP LED's on the DECswitch 
register activity.  

I cannot understand why the Digital LAN cannot connect directly to the 
DECswitch 900 TP port but works fine on a TP repeater.  

Any ideas ?

Regards,

Colin Houston	751 4062
3541.2Sounds like incorrect number of crossovers....NETCAD::BATTERSBYDon&#039;t use time/words carelesslyMon May 20 1996 11:469
    The DECswitch 900EE does not have an internal crossover on it
    twisted pair ports. The repeater does have internal crossover.
    So it sounds like you are describing a situation where the 
    incorrect number of crossovers is occuring when connecting the
    "twister" to the DECswitch900EE UTP ports. What is the make/brand
    of this thinwire to TP converter? What UTP cable are you using
    in your connection (BNXXX)?
    
    Bob
3541.3TP cross over problem ?BELFST::BELCOO::HOUSTONPeace at lastMon May 20 1996 13:0915
Hello.

The Thinwire to TP converter is a CentreCOM MR122T by Allied Telesis.

I have tried BN25g and BN24g cables both of which failed to the Decswitch.

There is however a switch on the CentreCOM TP port for MDI / MDIX. This 
might be that cross over factor you are talking about.

I will try again with that switch in the other position as soon as 
possible.

Many thanks 

Colin
3541.4Problem re-created and solved get switch in proper positionNETCAD::BATTERSBYDon&#039;t use time/words carelesslyWed May 29 1996 11:4313
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    Well I discovered quite by accident that we had a few of these 
    in our lab.
    When I connected one of these puppies to a utp port on a DECswitch900ef
    using a BN25G straight-thru cable the link came right up. The
    MDI/MDIX switch was in the MDIX position at the time. Using a
    BN24F crossover cable and the MDI/MDIX switch in the MDI position
    the link will also come up. So it's simply a matter of getting that
    switch in the right position depending on which cable you're using.
    There is a little user manual which should have come with it that 
    also explains this feature.
    
    Bob