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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

3079.0. "DS90TL in a hub900" by LEMAN::PAIVA (Hawkeye - Network Support @GEO) Mon Dec 18 1995 11:06

    Hi!
    
      A customer is experiencing the following problem which is the same as
    note 2540:
    
      He has added a line in HW_AGENT.DAT for his DS90TL (which is on a
    HUB900). He uses HUBwatch for Windows V4.1.1
      When he has the physical view of the hub, he gets a "No agent
    specified for the slot MAC address - please check log messages..." when
    he clicks on the DS90TL. If he does a Configuration-Delete and then a
    Configuration-Add of the DS90TL, everything is OK. BTW, what is the
    meaning of the "Enable Status Polling" box?
      The problem is that when he leaves HUBwatch, this configuration is
    lost, ie. he'll have to do a Configuration-Delete and then
    Configuration-Add again.
    
      Is this normal that the configuration done via Configuration-Add
    isn't relected in HW_AGENT.DAT. If yes, then why does have to add
    manually.
    
      Any hint?
    
      Pedro
    
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3079.1Solution.CGOS01::DMARLOWEHave you been HUBbed lately?Mon Dec 18 1995 11:365
    Unless the 90TL has 4 MB of memory, it will disappear or not work when
    polled by HUBWATCH.  When you ADD the 90TL to the slot, you must
    DISABLE POLLING.  After that clicking on the module will work.
    
    dave
3079.2To poll or not to poll...LEMAN::PAIVAHawkeye - Network Support @GEOTue Dec 19 1995 03:3318
    Dave,
    
    >Unless the 90TL has 4 MB of memory, it will disappear or not work when
    >polled by HUBWATCH.  When you ADD the 90TL to the slot, you must
    >DISABLE POLLING.  After that clicking on the module will work.
    
    Oh, I didn't know this 1MB/4MB difference. You mean that when HUBwatch
    restarts, the polling "will make it not work" as would enable polling
    while in the same "HUBwatch session" do?
    What I asked on the fly, was the meaning of the DISABLE STATUS POLLING
    box in the Configuration-Add window; is this a capability of disabling
    polling for the particular module being added when "General" polling is
    enabled?
    
    Cheers,
    
    Pedro
                     
3079.3DISABLE is good.CGOS01::DMARLOWEHave you been HUBbed lately?Tue Dec 19 1995 11:3317
    >>You mean that when HUBwatch
    >>restarts, the polling "will make it not work" as would enable polling
    
    If you have a 1 MB 90TL and polling is enabled, the module disappears
    when HUBWATCH polls all the slots in the hub.  This is because the 1 MB
    version does not have enuf memory for the code to respond to polls.  As
    the module cannot/does not respond, HUBWATCH deletes it.  After all,
    why would you reserve a slot when "nothing" is there?
    
    >>is this a capability of disabling
    >>polling for the particular module being added when "General" polling is
    >>enabled?
    
    Yes.
    
    dave                     
    
3079.4slight refinement.SLINK::HOODMy God, what have I done to my spleen?Tue Jan 02 1996 16:1124
>    If you have a 1 MB 90TL and polling is enabled, the module disappears
>    when HUBWATCH polls all the slots in the hub.  This is because the 1 MB
>    version does not have enuf memory for the code to respond to polls.  As
>    the module cannot/does not respond, HUBWATCH deletes it.  After all,
>    why would you reserve a slot when "nothing" is there?

'tain't HUBwatch that does the polling with the "slot polling" pushbutton.
This is the hub's agent's polling enable/disable.

When you add a module and set it to no slot polling, the slot table in the hub
has the module in it permanently.  So, when an SNMP request comes from anywhere
to ask what's in the hub, that module will show up.

If you set the module to slot polling enabled, the hub manager will maintain
a dynamic slot table entry.  In other words, the hub manager will ask the 
slot every few seconds "who are you".

Older 1 meg non-NAS 90TL's do not respond to hub manager polls once they
start running terminal server software. So, it is important to disable slot
polling for the older 90TL's.

Newer 90TL's and 90M's are autodiscovered and don't need all this malarky.

Tom Hood
3079.5refinement of the refinementNPSS::JOHNSONMike J., Network Products SupportTue Jan 02 1996 16:2315
re: .4,

The implication that there is an "old" non-DNAS and a new "DNAS" version of the 90TL 
may make people start checking hardware revs.  Don't.  The DSRVE product is the only
DS90TL product that we sell and it has but 1 MB of memory - hence "non-DNAS".  There
once was a DSRVE-UG and a DSRVL that were "return to factory" 4 MB upgrades but both
of these were retired about two years ago.  The replacement was an "install it yourself"
4 MB upgrade kit called DSRVE-SK.  However, due to material shortages, this product
has been unavailable for several months.

The bottom line is that this is NOT an old versus new problem.  Rather, it is one
of memory size and ALL STOCK DSRVE's have 1 MB.  SOME may have been upgraded to 4 MB
but that is the exception, not the rule.

/mj