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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

3055.0. "optical MMF fiber length ?" by MARS03::THOMAS () Mon Dec 11 1995 09:33

	My customer has 4 ETHERNET segments in 4 buildings (B1, B2, B3, B4) in a
private campus.

	Between all these buildings, there are 62,5/125 multi-mode optical
fibers with a 1300 nM window. The characteristics of these fibers are:
	LINK	# segments      total length	loss
	B1-B2	3 segments 	4174 m 		15,5 db
	B2-B3	5 segments	3224 m		14,1 db
	B3-B4	2 segments	 381 m	 	2,9 db
	B4-B1	2 segments 	2550 m		 9,6 db
	Several segments between 2 networked adjacent buidings are crossed
because there are small intermediate technical buidings.

	He wants to use an FDDI backbone to link all these Ethernet segments.

	What is the maximum optical fiber length between 2 contigous FDDI
    equipment, on a such FDDI ring ?
	Is 2000 m the real maximum length betyween any 2 FDDI multi-mode 900 
module ?
	Is this maximum length dependant of a power budget ?

	Regards,

	Bernard THOMAS
	MARSEILLE
	FRANCE
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3055.1no way with MMFVAXRIO::ROLFVaporware Design SpecialistMon Dec 11 1995 10:3116
    The 2000m maximum when using MMF is mainly due to the pulse-widening or
    distortion which will get gradually worse as the signal travels within
    the MMF at various refraction angles. Components of the same signal
    will arrive at the receiver at slightly different times in relation to
    each other, in spite of having been launched onto the fiber all at the same
    time.
    
    That's why you must "reshape" the signal before it becomes difficult to
    interpret it with confidence. If it were dependent on the budget only,
    
    In SMF all components of the signal are forced to travel the same
    straight line, hence this kind of distortion is virtually non-existant,
    and you can travel 20Km.
    
      
    
3055.2Gimmee a Call !!MSDOA::REEDJohn Reed @CBO = Network ServicesWed Dec 13 1995 11:3831
    A Much simpler route, would be to install an FDDI concentrator inside
    ot the intermediate buildings, where the fiber enters, and (in your
    current design) is patched back out again.
    
    Instead of patching past the building, install a DECconcentrator 900MX
    (in a DEchub One) with only two MOD-PMD's (both ANSI-MIC).  This would
    become in effect an FDDI repeater.   I don't know your site's
    measurements, but I would guess that any SINGLE SEGMENT is less than
    2Km long, and your could insert an FDDI module in the line with little
    difficulty.  
    
    ****** BLATANT SALES PITCH ********
    
    And by the way, I just happen to have an overstock in my warehouse (for
    a limited time only) TODAY !!    I have five Brand New (in the box,
    with manuals and styrofoam and everything) DECconcentrator 900MX
    modules, and 15 ANSI-MIC ModPMD's (and about seven UTP ModPMD's) that 
    I am getting ready to put onto DIAL.  It would help me and my cost center, 
    if you would like to buy these for resale to your customer for this 
    very problem.
    
    Such a Deal, no waiting!!  It would solve this length issue, which as
    the previous note states, WILL NOT WORK at distances of more than 2Km
    between light sources over MMF.
    
    ******* END OF BLATANT SALES PITCH ******
    
    Or you could change the fiber, and install single mode.
    
    JR