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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

2912.0. "DECstack90 and DECserver90M" by PRSSOS::PEYRACHE (Jean-Yves Peyrache Country Support Group France) Thu Oct 26 1995 12:56

 Hi

 it seems impossible to use the ethernet TP (RJ45) front port on DEcserver90M
 plugged in a DECstack90.
 using in stack disable this port after the power up sequence of the            
 DECserver90M, you can use only the thinwire port , it's a pity if you want
 use this server in stand alone using the stack as a power distribution

  thanks for any comments or explanations

  jean-yves
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2912.1DECstack90 and DS90M works...ZUR01::ACKERMANNTue Mar 12 1996 11:0724
    
    Hello Jean-Yves,
    
    We just had the same Problem on a Customer Site here in Switzerland.
    Now we reproduced the Problem here in our Environment:
    
    -One DS90M in a single Stackable Hub connected via the Twisted Pair
     Port to the Network. Now it depends on, how the Position Identifier	
     Switch is set. If it is set in any other Position then "Agent",
     the DS90M Network Connection fails via the Twisted Pair Port!
     It makes also no difference, wheter the MGMT Cable is connected
     to it self, (MJ-8 Port in-out)
    -The behaviour is as follows: The DS90M makes its selftest, then
     loads its Image ether from Flash or from Network (depends on Type)
     does the Image Compression (ca 5Min) and when he is ready and
     loaded, the # Network LED goes out, and the Network Connection fails.
     That means: The Network connection fails after successfull load
     and decompression of the Image, over the Network! (or flash)
    -The only Solution we found is: Set the Position Identifier Switch
     to "Agent" so it works as the Stack Manager.
     Wheter this is Feature or Bug, i hope the Engineering for the
     Multistack Products knows the Answer...
    
     Daniel MCS Switzerland 
2912.2Try the terminal_servers notesfileSLINK::HOODYour bad news bearTue Mar 12 1996 11:593
You might want to try the IROCZ::TERMINAL_SERVERS notesfile about this one.

Tom Hood
2912.3IROCZ::D_NELSONDave Nelson LKG1-3/A11 226-5358Thu Mar 14 1996 13:0720
RE: .1

>    -The only Solution we found is: Set the Position Identifier Switch
>     to "Agent" so it works as the Stack Manager.

My recollection is that the DS90M software disables the 10BT port if the
DS90M is in a hub.  The External BNC is considered "disbaled" because of its
location (impossible to connect if the modules are adjacent).  The hub 
backplane 10B2 connection is used.  If the DS90M is standalone, then either 
the 10BT or 10B2 ports are usable (but not both).

It may be that any setting other than "agent" makes the DS90M want to use 
only the 10B2 port.  Just a guess.  I don't really know much about the stack
environment.  If someone could elaborate, then maybe I (or one of my 
compatriots) could have a look at the code to see what is happening.

Regards,

Dave

2912.4EDISTO::greeneMichael GreeneSun Mar 17 1996 15:3316
        Dave, 

        On the RoamAbout Access Point we discovered that the AP needs to be
        in a MultiStack slot number of nine or higher. This is due to the
        fact that the MultiStack essentially looks like a DEChub 90, split
        up if you will. So slots 1-8 make the module think it is in a DEChub
        90. In the case of the AP, in a DEChub 90 they disable the 10BT
        port and expect ThinWire (normally the backplane, but the
        external port works as well, and so it's fine in a MultiStack). 
        My suspicion is the the DS90M is doing something similar. 
        Set the slot switch to 9 or higher and I bet the 10BT port works.
        (Unless of course the DS90M supports the interconnected DEChub 90
        environment, in which case slots 9-16 are in the second hub...)

        Michael
2912.5DS90M and AP different behaviour....ZUR01::ACKERMANNTue Mar 19 1996 08:2411
    
    Hello Michael,
    
    The behaviour of the RoamAbout Access Point seems to be different
    to the DECServer 90M. I tried Position 9 and 14, but with no success.
    As soon as the Decompression has finished, the #LED goes off and
    the Network connection is terminated. (Connected to 10BT Port)
    
    Any other Ideas are wellcome,
                                            
    Daniel 
2912.6Clear Statment requestedPRSSOS::PEYRACHEJean-Yves Peyrache Country Support Group FranceThu Mar 21 1996 12:579
  Since i started this entry , i put 2 coins on the box...

  

  may be somebody from Decstack engeneering group could
  answered about the support of these configurations ?

  Jean-Yves