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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

2910.0. "900EF Filtering , will this work ?" by BRIEIS::BARKER_E (Ummm...) Thu Oct 26 1995 10:24

Hi,
    	A sanity check on the following would be much appreciated to make
    sure I'm working on the right lines with the following :-
    
	I'm working on customer site where we have 4 DECswitch 900EF's 
connected to a FDDI ring, with other ethernet segments in use with nodes on 
them and nodes on the FDDI ring.  I want to implement filtering so that
only traffic generated by or destined for nodes on the FDDI or ethernet 
segments within the environment of the FDDI/Ethernet segments is passed 
to/from  the existing 3Com network.

	Config as follows, I've left out concentrators for clarity :-

           Various ethernets                          Various ethernets
	 _|__|_|_______                             _|_|_|________
 	| 900EF        |                           |  900EF       |
	|     'A'      |------FDDI-----------------|      'B'     |
	|______________|                           |______________|
	      |                                         |
	      |                                         |
	      |FDDI                                     |FDDI
	 _____|________                             ____|_________
 	| 900EF        |                           |  900EF       |
	|     'C'      |------FDDI-----------------|     'D'      |
	|______________|                           |______________|
	 |    | |                                    |    | |
         |    Various ethernets                      |    Various ethernets
         |                                           |
         |                                           |
         |_ Existing 3 COM network __________________|


	I have entered a list of all the MAC addresses of the equipment that 
is connected to the DECswitches and the DECswitches on each of the 4
DECswitches, with each address filter set to pass on all 7 ports, plus
broadcast addresses for the protocols in use.  I have
then set up manual mode on all ports except the ones connecting to the
existing 3Com network, so that all traffic can enter the two DECswitches
connected to the 3Com network and then only be passed if the destination 
address is for one of the permitted addresses.  Traffic generated by
the nodes inside the DECswitch environment will be allowed to pass out
as it's source address will be recognised and passed.

	Does this sound correct ? Will this give a problem for a node 
connected to an ethernet segment on DECswitch 'A' communicating via 2 
DECswitches to nodes on the 3COM network , ie going via 'A' and then 'C' onto 
the 3COM network ?

	Thanks,

		Euan

	
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2910.1And the answer is ....BRIEIS::BARKER_EUmmm...Tue Oct 31 1995 04:1414
    No it won't !
    
    	The problem is that a valid packet will pass the first DECswitch
    without any problems but if the packet is destined for another segment
    via a 2nd  DECswitch the source address will get blocked.  In our
    particular environment we cannot work around this unless we only put
    filters on the one DECswitch that is actively connected to the 3COM
    network, and the other one operates with normal/auto filtering.  This
    is a workaround but is a bit limited as if a DECswitch failed we would
    have to manually activate the filters on the 2nd DECswitch.  The other
    workaround is to implement filtering on the 3COM kit, currently this is
    being planned.
    
    	Euan