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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

2896.0. "Number of PEswitches in a HUB?" by CHEFS::RUMMING_K () Mon Oct 23 1995 05:20

    
    Five PEswitches work , add a sixth and it does not!
    
    Situation : Hub with 
    Slot 1 900MX
    Slot 2 to 6 PEswitches
    
    FDDI network is OK no errors
    
    Add a PEswitch to Slot 7 and the errors increase so as to get rejects
    reported due to link error rate.
    The error is reported as the MAC detecting tokens missed by another MAC
    and is reported by all modules.
    
    Changed the swapped out with many PEswitches , no improvement, only
    taking slot 7 out does the network behave! . I moved the sixth PEswitch
    to slot 8 same result. 
    
    Any Ideas?
    
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2896.1NPSS::WADENetwork Systems SupportMon Oct 23 1995 10:055
    
    Please provide the serial # and HW rev for the DEChub 900 backplane.
    
    Bill
    
2896.2NETCAD::MILLBRANDTanswer mamMon Oct 23 1995 10:451
Please also check your power consumption.  Check error log.
2896.3Speculative guess...NETCAD::BATTERSBYMon Oct 23 1995 11:045
    Speculation on my part, but it sounds like an old HUB in need
    of stiffeners. Sounds like some kind of intermittent backplane
    connectivity.
    
    Bob
2896.4Hardware rev and S/W revCHEFS::RUMMING_KMon Oct 23 1995 14:2611
    Herewith the rev level of the Hub reported via the serial port:
    The serial number is obscured by equipment mounted in the Cabinet above
    the Hub.
    
    Hardware rev f
    RO=V1.1.6
    SW=4.0.4
    
    Any ideas gratefully received!
    Keith.
    
2896.5NPSS::WADENetwork Systems SupportMon Oct 23 1995 16:1911
    
    The info you've provided is related to the MAM and has no relationship
    to the Hardware.  As Bob said, the problem sounds like a stiffener
    issue so you need to check the HW rev.  The mounting bracket usually
    obscures the serial # but the HW rev should be visible.  

    How long has this DEChub 900 been in service?
    
    Bill
    
    
2896.6Time in ServiceCHEFS::RUMMING_KMon Oct 23 1995 16:5310
    Bill,
    
    The DEChub is (hopefully) new. We've had it since August this year, and
    I guess the DECgroup in the US ( VIIS in SHR) built the cab in July.
    
    I will find the hardware rev i'll dismantle the cab! What rev is good?
    
    regards,
    Keith
    
2896.7Serial Number of HubCHEFS::RUMMING_KTue Oct 24 1995 07:102
    
    serial number of the Hub is AS51102692
2896.8Swap positions of concentrator & switches & what happens...NETCAD::BATTERSBYTue Oct 24 1995 09:4711
    Well that serial number rules out the need for the stiffeners
    ECO to fix the pin wipe problem seen on older hubs. The stiffeners
    fix was implemented on DMHUB-MBs with revision of A04 and higher, and
    DMHUB-MAs with revision of A03 and Higher. A AS5XXXXXXX serial number
    should have this ECO.
    If Keith is willing to experiment, it might be useful to see what
    happens if the Concentrator 900MX is installed in slot 7 or 8 and
    the PEswitches installed in the lower numbered slots. I'd also 
    be curious to know if any errors are written to the PEswitch error log.
    
    Bob
2896.9NPSS::WADENetwork Systems SupportTue Oct 24 1995 10:1711
    There is a new pin wipe fix that should be installed on this DMHUB. 
    The problem affects FDDI connected modules in slots 7&8.
    
    DMHUB's coming out of manufacturing have the fix but the official fix
    kit for existing DMHUBs is not available as yet.
                                   
    If you send me (NPSS::WADE) your mailing address I'll send you the kit and
    installation instructions so you can get the customer up and running.
    
    Bill
                                                     
2896.10detailed description of pinwipe fix ...NCMAIL::SCHEIDWed Oct 25 1995 15:2511
    
    Bill,
    
    	Can you tell me more about this problem ... I have large FDDI 
    customers who puts 6-7 FDDI devices per hub ... I have'nt run into this 
    problem yet but would like to better understand it.
    
    -Charlie
    NCMAIL::SCHEID
    
    
2896.11NPSS::WADENetwork Systems SupportThu Oct 26 1995 11:277
    
    Within the next couple of weeks a blitz will be sent out describing the
    problem and containing the part number for a "DEChub 900 MultiSwitch Pin 
    Wipe Upgrade Kit".   
    
    Bill Wade
    Network Product Support