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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

2754.0. "HUBloader LOAD button not enabled" by DPDMAI::KORNS () Thu Sep 14 1995 13:52

    What are the possible reasons that the LOAD button won't highlight
    at the bottom of the HUBloader V1.0.0 screen after successfully
    connecting to a DEChub 900MS.
    
    Situation:
    
    	Customer has HUBwatch V4.0.1 but claims they have no DCF v4
    	floppies (is this possible? I thought all kits shipped with
    	it?)
    
    	We pulled the DMHUB402.BIN file from ftp.digital.com and copied
    	it, along with with DCFILES.DAT from HUBLOAD directory into the
    	FIRMWARE directory. We setup HUBWATCH_LOAD to point to FIRMWARE.
        We also had to manually edit DCFFILES.DAT to reflect the more
    	recent DMHUB402.BIN pulled from the internet (org had DMHUB400.BIN)
    	TFTP_Server/NetRider loader is started.	
    
    	HUBloader runs, contacts the DEChub in question and displays
    	the  results of the SHOW command in the "Status Messages" 
    	section of the window. The "Device Data" section of the window
    	shows properly the current (V3.1.0) and Latest (V4.0.2) versions
    	of the software. However, the LOAD button is greyed out.
    
    We have tried entering the PC's IP address into the TFTP Server
    field.
    
    What else could possibly cause the LOAD button not to be enabled?
    
    Dave,
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2754.1Start TFTP Server firstDRAC::DSMAILFri Sep 15 1995 06:336
    
    
    Start TFTP Server FIRST before run Hubloader.
    It also happened to me.
    
    Jordi Manchon
2754.2Hubwatch didn't ship with FWPTOJJD::DANZAKPittsburgher �Sun Sep 17 1995 21:4612
    dave,
    
    there was a screw-up and hubwatch did NOT ship with firmware.  It was
    to be re-shipped with it when they figured it all out.  (This happened
    to me with RPS, etc., I bugged Bill Seaver about it and I believe that
    Mike Bouchard was in the process of fixing it.  However my guess is
    it's likely that if the customer is not on update service.....they may
    not get it.....but that's just a guess.
    
    ttfn,
    j
    
2754.3Any other reasons?DPDMAI::hsodial1_port3.hso.dec.com::KORNSLike you get on your feet, except with a "K"Tue Sep 19 1995 23:144
Can anyone offer any other reasons LOAD button wouldn't highlight.
Customer is telling me it wouldn't light and he had run TFTP_Server.

Dave
2754.4TOOK::MILLBRANDTanswer mamWed Sep 20 1995 17:407
I've had the Load button go gray on me during a sequence
of loads that failed because I had the path name wrong.
Re-entering the "Load File" name turned it back on - I
suspect editing any of the Device Data fields would have
the same effect.

	Dotsie
2754.5Stack problem?SWAM2::JACOMB_SCI know enough to be dangerous!!Thu Sep 21 1995 17:035
    I have the same problem (sometimes) it seems that if I use the Hubwatch
    (Pathworks) IP stack, everyting is OK. If I use the MS stack or
    Chameleon Stack, it stays greyed out.
    
    	-Scott
2754.6help on loadMSBCS::HURLEYWed Jul 31 1996 13:3914
    Not sure if this is the proper place but I'm trying to load new
    firmware from hubwatch and I'm getting this error. Not sure what to do
    so any helpful hints would be appreciated..
    
    Loading 16.122.0.75 with user specified data.
    Load Agent Name:  hurls99;   Agent Address:  16.122.0.75
    Slot Number: 2
    Community String: public
    [GIGAswitch] Setting TFTP Server IP Address.
    [ERROR] SNMP Set Request Timed Out
    [WARNING] Check Community String
    [ERROR] LOAD ATTEMPT FAILED
    
    John
2754.7TFTP Server IP address entered?JULIET::yosmte::HARRIS_MASales Executive IIWed Jul 31 1996 14:138
    DO you have the "TFTP Server" box set to a valid TFTP server with the
    firmware images residing there? (About 1/3 of the way down, on the
    Right side of the dialog box, it will say "TFTP Server" and have a text
    box. That box needs a valid TFTP server IP address.)
    
    TFTP server set?
    
    Mark
2754.8NPSS::MDLYONSMichael D. Lyons DTN 226-6943Wed Jul 31 1996 14:364
    ...the problem is that you're not specifying the box address (lowest
    MAC address) as the community string, but using the default "public".
    
    MDL
2754.9MSBCS::HURLEYWed Jul 31 1996 14:5917
    Mike,
    
    	Not sure what you mean by the box address. Below is a snapshot of
    the hubloader window
    
    		Firmware Version:
    	current			latest:
        2.0			2.20
    Load file /usr/kits/HUBwatch/fgl_22.rsx
    tftp server: 16.122.0.57
    Community Public
    
one the station & port Summary it says the station id is
    00-00-08-00-2b-a2-59-14 and over on the Mac Information it says 
    una 00-00-f8-00-00-00
    
    I tried that mac address but same error..
2754.10community nameMXOC00::CSILVACarlos@MXO 7296514 Free but focusedWed Jul 31 1996 16:1316
    
    If you look at the front of your GIGAswitch, you will see 
    2 parameters :
    
    	SA = <lowest MAC address>
    	DA = <highest MAC address>
    
    The GIGAswitch does not default its community name to �public� 
    as most DEChub products do, instead the lowest MAC address is used,
    you need to specify the value in SA = <> as the community
    name in HubLoader. If you don�t you won�t be able to 
    change any MIB variable in the GIGAswitch, what is needed
    for such things like, for example, telling the hub
    about a TFTP host and a file name to upgrade the firmware
    
    
2754.11NPSS::MDLYONSMichael D. Lyons DTN 226-6943Wed Jul 31 1996 17:48106
           <<< SCHOOL::PUBLIC$DSK:[NOTES$LIBRARY]GIGASWITCH.NOTE;3 >>>
                                -< GIGAswitch >-
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Note 463.1    Common problems encountered during firmware upgrades        1 of 6
NPSS::MDLYONS "Michael D. Lyons DTN 226-6943"        99 lines  21-APR-1995 15:17
                             -< A few typos fixed >-
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    Checklist for common problems encountered upgrading GIGAswitch/FDDI
    firmware:
    
    1) The read/write community string (password)
    
       SNMP sets are done during the load process, either explicitly or
    implicitly.  The "password" required for SNMP sets is the read/write
    community string.  On the GIGAswitch/FDDI system, the default
    read/write community string is the "box address", I.E. the lowest LAN
    address in the multiple address ROM installed on the clock module.
    
        If you are standing in front of the GIGAswitch/FDDI system, the
    easiest way to obtain the box address is to look at the front of the
    clock module, which is in slot 7.  The LAN address range should be on a
    label on the clock module.  The lowest address is the default
    read/write community string.
    
        If the label isn't there, you can get this information from OBM in
    the configuration part of the main menu.
    
        Note that the default read/write community string contains all
    lower case characters and no "-", ":", " " or other separators, I.E. it
    looks like 08002ba4c180
    
        Common errors:
    
    08-00-2b-a4-c1-80      "-" are not part of the default read/write
                           community string
    
    08002BA4C180           Upper case characters are not used in the
                           default read/write community string
    
    Note that to initiate the load using OpenVMS applications, you most
    likely need to encase the read/write community string in double quotes
    since otherwise it will probably be converted to uppercase for you. 
    I.E. you need to say "08002ba4c180"
    
    Also note that cutting and pasting the box address from OBM won't yield
    the correct results, since OBM displays it in upper case, separated by
    "-".
    
    2) IP
    
        See 265.1 for a list of the common problems associated with IP
    reachability.  The quick summary is to be sure you have an IP address
    assigned to the right ports, and a default gateway defined if you are
    communicating outside a subnet.
    
    3) Keyswitch position
    
        The GIGAswitch/FDDI system has four keyswitch positions.  The
    leftmost two key positions disallow SNMP Set requests.  The rightmost
    two key positions allow SNMP Set requests (Normal Access, or Easy
    Access (aka world access)).  Make certain that the keyswitch position
    allows SNMP Set requests.
    
    4) Load file names
    
        Various operating systems, and various server software have load
    file limitations.  Keep these in mind.  I.E. If you're using DOS, I
    think you're limited to 9 characters.  OpenVMS MOP is limited to 16
    characters.
    
        OpenVMS MOP supplies a default extension of .SYS if you don't
    supply it.
    
    5) load software
    
        Be certain that your load software does not conflict with existing
    network software.  I.E. NDUplus has its own tftp server built in.  It
    is possible that this may conflict with a pre-existing tftp service on
    the same system.
    
    6) Impatience
    
        Don't power cycle the GIGAswitch/FDDI system, or individual cards
    unnecessarily during the upgrade process.  Some cards take a long time
    to upgrade (AGL-2, PSC are the two slowest).  
    
        Starting with BL2.1, *all* the cards will reboot automatically when
    it is appropriate for the reboot to happen.  AGL-2 cards currently take
    about fifteen minutes to reboot!
 
        Be careful that you don't cause the GIGAswitch/FDDI system to
    reboot by upgrading the elected SCP card while the AGL-2 card is in the
    process of doing an upgrade!
       
    7) Retries
    
        On very busy networks, or networks with lots of errors, frame drops
    may cause the load attempt to fail - Just do a retry.
    
    8) Incompatible firmware
    
        Occasionally, there are dependencies in the various modules on
    other modules revision levels.  Please read the release notes for the
    proper order of upgrades.  Also check to see if management memory must
    be cleared.
                                                                      
2754.12getting closerMSBCS::HURLEYThu Aug 01 1996 13:3217
    Well I'm getting closer but still not there..
    I now have the lowest mac address for the community, The key on the
    switch is turned to # 3. There is a ip address assigned to the port and
    this is what I'm getting now..
    
    Loading 16.122.0.75 with user specified data.
    Load Agent Name:  hurls99;   Agent Address:  16.122.0.75
    Slot Number: 2
    Community String: 08002ba25900
    [GIGAswitch] Setting TFTP Server IP Address.
    [GIGAswitch] Setting firmware image file name.
    [GIGAswitch] Triggering image file transfer.
    Community String: 08002ba25900
    [GIGAswitch] Polling for file transfer completion.
    [ERROR] FILE TRANSFER FAILED
    
    
2754.13NPSS::MDLYONSMichael D. Lyons DTN 226-6943Thu Aug 01 1996 15:013
        Did you start up the tftp server?
    
    MDL
2754.14thanksMSBCS::HURLEYThu Aug 01 1996 16:3310
    Michael,
    
    	Thanks for all the help and the pointers. Turned out the tftp
    server was started but pointing to /tmp area. The files I was trying
    to load was in the /usr/kits/HUBwatch. I moved everything to /tmp and
    everything worked fine.. 
    
    Thanks Again..
    
    John
2754.15load button greyed out re-visited.KERNEL::FREKESDO YOU MIND, I AM BUSY!!! Scratching my buttWed Nov 06 1996 09:5313
2754.16Server addressCONSLT::BUZZELLThu Nov 07 1996 01:114
2754.17ThanksKERNEL::FREKESOlympic Banging Team MemberThu Nov 07 1996 09:048