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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

2649.0. "DEChub PEswitch Concentrator " by HGOM11::TYRONELIN () Thu Aug 17 1995 03:28

    Hi,
    
    Can I have this configuration:
    ONE concentrator 900TH with 2 Multi-mode fiber and
     7 PEswitch 900TX in one hub900,and will add up to ten DEChub900
    in a chain? This will provide 400 Information points in one big
    building.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Tyrone
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2649.31 out of 2DELNI::BUZZELLFri Aug 18 1995 12:3310
    
    
         RE. -1 You can build the cinfiguration with 2 concentrators and
    it will work. With 2TH's you draw 419 watts, and with 2MX's it draws
    403 watts. It will NOT work with a DECswitch 900EF and either
    concentrator because 428-436 watts are needed. And yes I am aware
    that with new supplies eventually we will be able to get 489 watts
    but it aint shipping yet.
    
    
2649.4Thanks EdNETCAD::DOODYMichael DoodyFri Aug 18 1995 13:251
    
2649.5Sorry TyroneNETCAD::DOODYMichael DoodyMon Aug 21 1995 10:4157
	The configuration in 2649.0 will work. I have deleted my replies
	in .1 and .2 in hopes of preventing confusion. 

	With the latest firmware, a new Ligo has been defined to allow 
	a concentrator to be the root of a tree. Using this capability,
	you can connect your 10 hubs together using a dual ring, however
	you will not have a dual ring within the hubs since the modules 
	will be tree'd off the concentrator. Here is a snippet of 
	the FDDI configuration guide which can be found in note #2340.


	-Mike




  EXAMPLE 4: DUAL HOMING AND CONNECTION TO AN EXTERNAL DUAL RING

  In some cases it is desirable to connect the hub to an external dual ring, 
  and tree the modules within the backplane.  In other cases, it is desirable
  to have a redundant connection from the hub to higher level concentrators.
  This second case is commonly referred to as dual homing.  Either of these 
  configurations requires the use of a concentrator at the top of the tree.
 
  Note, the modules connected via the hub backplane are single attach 
  modules; the dual homing pertains to the connection between the hub based 
  tree and the external concentrator. 


    Diagram #15: Dual Homed Connections to an FDDI Network

			      Front Panel Ports
                                                          A         B
                                                          | M M M M |
                                                          | | | | | |
	+-------------+		+-------------+		+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+	
	|Switch       |		|Switch       |		|Concentrator |
	+-+---------+-+		+-+---------+-+		+-+-----------+
	  |	    |		  |	    |		  |	    
	  |	    +-------------+         +-------------+         
	  M	    S		  M	    S		  M	    

				Backplane Ports


  Diagram #16: Building Block Representation of Diagram #15 Configuration

                                                      A     B
                                                      |     |
              +-------+        +-------+            +-+-----+-+
              |Nonroot|        |Nonroot|            | Root    |
              |  MS   |        |  MS   |            | Primary |
              +-+---+-+        +-+---+-+            +-+-------+
                |   |            |   |                |   
                M   S            M   S                M   


2649.6Any backplane limitation ?...LFOIS1::MOUSSUso unusuaL terMTue Aug 22 1995 06:446
  I guess that such a way, in each DEChub 900MS, there will be 7 PEswitches 
  each one treed to the DECconcentrator.
  That will need a total amount of 14 flexible channels.
  Is that currently supported ?
  
  
2649.7NETCAD::DOODYMichael DoodyTue Aug 22 1995 10:355
    Yes, that will use up all the lower connector flex channels. There is
    still the upper connector flex channel and the ThinWire channel
    available for two ethernet segments.
    
    -Mike