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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

2612.0. "UPS for 900 HUB ?" by DIAS::SYSTEM () Fri Aug 04 1995 06:10

    Hello ,
    
    	I have a question regarding the input power to the DECHUB 900.
    We sold four hubs to a customer who asked for a UPS on each hub due
    to the remote location of each hub. DECsite ordered a 1.5KWatt UPS
    for each hub. The hubs are fully poulated and have four power supplies
    in each for redundancy. Everything was working fine until the power
    went down .......  Guess what happened .....   None of the hubs stayed
    up. We had the impression that the UPS would hold the load but
    apparently it didn't. There is some confusion here as to the stated
    
    Electrical Specifications
    
    Input current:	Less than 10 Amps.
    
    
    What is this implying ?  9 Amps at 220 Volts gives us 1980 Watts.
    However it is rated at less than 1100 VA ...
    
    Can anyone recommend what size UPS we should have installed. Possibly
    our Networking group did not take into account the inefficiencies of
    the UPS 1.5 KW (Must certainly be around 1.2 KW) and the HUB itself.
    Is there a clear specification which will help us know exactly how
    much power the HUB draws when it has one,two,three or four power
    supplies inserted. 
    
    
    Regards,
    
    Confused Technician.
    
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2612.1VA rating is critical, not watts!NETCAD::B_MACARTHURThu Aug 24 1995 13:2144
    
        HUB Electrical Specifications:
    
    Input Voltage: 88VAC - 264VAC (Design Range)
    
    Input Current: 13.7A -  6.8A  (these are worst case numbers for each 
                                   voltage range...low line in each case)
    
    Input VA: 1200VA for either range! This is the critical specification
    when sizing a UPS, not watts. I've tested a 1250VA UPS (APC Model
    1250RM) with a fully loaded hub and it works fine. My guess is that
    there was either a problem with the UPS you selected, or the
    Volt-Ampere (VA) rating was too low (again, watts don't mean anything
    here, the critical spec is VA).
    
       To answer your other questions, the rating of "less than 10A" for
    input current implies that at a nominal line voltage of 115 or 120 VAC,
    the HUB will draw less than 10A. In the 240VAC range, the current will
    be approximately half that value (5A). Here's some other numbers that
    may help:
    
    Output Power (max) = 420 watts
    Efficiency (worst case) = 58% or .58
    Power Factor (worst case) = .6
    
    420/.58 = 724 watts AC input (worst case)
    
    724/.6 = 1206 Volt-Amperes (worst case)
    
    1206VA/120VAC = 10.05A
    
    1206VA/88VAC  = 13.7A
    
    1206VA/240VAC = 5.02A
    
    1206VA/176VAC = 6.85A
    
      This example shows you how to calculate input current at different
    input voltages. The key here is the VA rating. 
    
    Give me a call or send mail if you have further questions.
    
    Bob