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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

2500.0. "EMC standards conformance?" by CMOTEC::CHOI (Shaking and Moving) Tue Jul 11 1995 09:25

    Hi,
    
    Here in Europe, some EMC directives will come into effect shortly.
    
    I'm not an expert here, but this is my understanding of the situation 
    from what a customer told me:
    
    For the last few years, adherence to these directives has been
    voluntary, but from January 1996, these directives come fully into
    force.
    
    Strangely enough, there appear to be no "standards" as such to back
    these directives, although there are some voluntary (whatever that
    means!) standards for emmisions (EN55024) and immunity (EN55022).
    
    Apparently, these standards are similar to FCC standards in the US.
    
    Adherence to these directives can be to 2 levels: Class A (commercial)
    and Class B (domestic, more stringent than Class A).
    
    Questions: Does Digital intend their hub products to be conformant to
               these directives?  
    
               If so, to class A or class B?
    
               If so, will this adherence depend on the media (UTP, Foil
               STP or Braid Screened TP) or will it be for all media types?
    
    What's our corporate line on this?  My immediate question is about
    hubs, but what about our other active and passive (eg. ODC) products?
    
    FYI - some of our competitors are starting to claim comformance to
    Class B, and could start to use this as a product differentiator
    against us if we don't.
    
    
    Clinton
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2500.1Hello...hello...CMOTEC::CHOIShaking and MovingMon Jul 17 1995 06:2416
    Nearly a week later and there's still no answer.  Does this mean that
    
    	1) Nobody read .0
    	2) .0 has been read and we're working on a response
    	3) .0 has been read but we have no response (and didn't know this
           was an issue)?
    
    If 3), can I suggest that we *will* need to have a party line on this as,
    potentially, non-compliance to mandatory EMC regs will cause us great
    difficulties in Europe next year.
    
    
    Any status?
    
    
    Clinton
2500.2Your question has been forwarded.....NETCAD::BATTERSBYMon Jul 17 1995 10:259
    Clinton - You might try contacting some individuals such as
    Bill Bogert (NETCAD::BOGERT) or Rick Busenbark (NETCAD::BUSENBARK)
    directly, to see if they can help you with your area of concerns.
    There are people who may be on vacation, and that may be why you
    haven't received an answer in here. I will forward your note to
    both Bill and Rick. I'm sure there is *someone* who is aware of this
    issue.
    
    Bob
2500.3NETCAD::THAYERMon Jul 17 1995 12:418
	The man to talk to is Boris Shusterman, FCCVDE::SHUSTERMAN.
	Boris is well aware of the changes coming in the European
	EMC regulations and has appropriate plans for compliance
	for our various networking products. I'll let Boris speak 
	to them....when he returns from vacation.

				John
2500.4Yes, we do comply...CMOTEC::CHOIShaking and MovingMon Jul 24 1995 06:4033
    
    Boris replied by mail.  His reply is posted with his permission...
    
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    Yes, we do comply to the European CE mark requirements. As a matter of
    fact, these requirements are part of the DEC103 standard.  This standard
    is internal to Digital, of course, but it is based on the directives of
    European markets were applicable.
    
    The requirements are not law yet (they become a law on January 1,
    1996), and most of it is related to the immunity testing (ESD, EFT, PLT
    and Radiated Immunity).  The emmisions part has been a law for a long
    time, in Europe it is the CISPR 22 limits.  There are also, just as in FCC
    requirements, class A and class B.
    
    The CE requirements are divided in class 1 and class 2, where class 2
    is more stringent. Now, the HUB products - we aim at compliance with
    class A limits (FCC and CISPR), with immunity testing limits set for
    class 1.
    
    For the reference - we, in Networking organization, were the first in
    Digital to recognize the need for CE compliance, and all HUB products
    went that way since the beginning.  We also have a team to push all
    products which were designed prior to that time and intended to stay on
    the market to get the CE certification as well. This is an ongoing
    process.
    
    Note - the DEC103 Std is a document which coveres all aspects of
    testing, etc. in details. The strategy is set by the Domain Office,
    which is in Marlboro.
    
    Boris