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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

2410.0. "Reloading a 90ts via bootp?" by STRWRS::KOCH_P (It never hurts to ask...) Thu Jun 22 1995 01:16

    
    I blew the upgrade of my 90TS. It is sending out a bootp request for
    firmware to the Netrider Loader. However, it can't provide it. I have
    added the "server" to the database, but I don't know which file to tell
    it to load. 
    
    What do I need to set up to reload my 90ts via bootp?
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2410.1STRWRS::KOCH_PIt never hurts to ask...Thu Jun 22 1995 14:534
    
    Could someone please let me know how to do this or point me to the
    documentation where the bootp information is located so I can rebuild
    my 90ts to be a working module?
2410.2NETCAD::DOODYMichael DoodyFri Jun 23 1995 12:437
    Note #2 shows that the 90TS needs the file detmi110.bin.
    
    Read the _READ_ME.txt file and the on-line help for setting up BOOTP.
    (Easy for me to say). Maybe someone has some more specific steps 
    to follow...?
    
    md
2410.3STRWRS::KOCH_PIt never hurts to ask...Fri Jun 23 1995 13:269
    
    I can successfully use the TFTP server to download other devices. It
    seems intuitive how to set it up for other things. I know that the 90ts
    needs detmi110.bin. However, after setting all that up in the tftp
    server, it STILL won't successfully respond to the many bootp requests
    coming in. It would be nice if the tftp server had a log function to
    show what the bootp request was requesting to I could debug this. This
    is like to trying to disassemble a bomb in the dark with the right
    tools but if I can't see the color of the wires, what good is it?
2410.4SLINK::HOODMaine State Bird: The black flyFri Jun 23 1995 13:3810
>    is like to trying to disassemble a bomb in the dark with the right
>    tools but if I can't see the color of the wires, what good is it?

I've always wondered about this... Why do bombers in movies always use the
same color codes in their bombs?  Is it because they know the police will
discover the bomb and will know how do disarm it?  If so, why not just put
an on/off switch on the darned thing...

I think I'll take the afternoon off now,
Tom Hood
2410.5Need to setup default file name?ROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterFri Jun 23 1995 14:3916
Have you looked at the NetRider online help?

Help -> Contents -> Controlling Access To Files -> File Names.  Check out the
section on Default Load File Name.

Something to try (if you haven't already):

From the NetRider window, select Config -> Server and add the 90TS' MAC and IP
address.  Then select Config -> Files.  Enter "default" in the Request File Name
box and "detmi110" in the Local File Name box (do NOT include the extension). 
Make sure the detmi110.bin file is in the NETRIDER\LOAD directory and start the
loader.

Disclaimer: I've never actually done this.

...Roger...
2410.6STRWRS::KOCH_PIt never hurts to ask...Fri Jun 23 1995 17:337
    
    Roger,
    
    	I've tried variations of of. The local filename box accepts
    device/directory info, so I put that info in there and did not put the
    file in the netrider/load directory. However, I did not try that
    specific combination. I'll try it and post the results.
2410.7I figured out how to make bootp work!STRWRS::KOCH_PIt never hurts to ask...Sat Jun 24 1995 12:1625
    
    Well, I figured it out. First of all, the printed MAC address on the
    front was slightly illegible and I thought the last character was a "B"
    instead of an "E". I used OpenVMS bootp to figure this out. It would be
    nice if the Netrider loader kept a log of bootp requests & addresses. 
    
    I kept staring at the problem and at 1:30 it hit me. The load files for
    the DECservers which the Netrider loader usually loads were there
    without extensions. I looked in the NETRIDER\LOAD directory and indeed
    the file were there without extensions. I renamed the file DETMI110.BIN
    to DETMI110 (no extensions). I then added the "default" entry pointing
    to DETMI110 and the next request, it LOADED! 
    
    However, after the 90TS loaded, all the lights continued to blink at
    the same time. I powered down the unit and it booted fine. I think
    there is a problem with the 90TS bootp sequence in that it does NOT do
    a final reset. 
    
    Who will be looking into this problem?
    
    Also, is there some reason reason bootp for these devices asks for
    "default"? If every device asks for "default", seems a little
    brain-dead to me. Why can't each device ask for its 5 character Digital
    part number (detmi in this case) so if the problem exists and a PC
    needs to reboot it, you don't have to be so hands on to make it happen?
2410.8TOOK::D_NELSONDave Nelson LKG1-3/A11 226-5358Mon Jun 26 1995 16:4319
    RE: .7
    
    > Also, is there some reason reason bootp for these devices asks for
    > "default"? If every device asks for "default", seems a little
    > brain-dead to me. Why can't each device ask for its 5 character Digital
    > part number (detmi in this case) so if the problem exists and a PC
    > needs to reboot it, you don't have to be so hands on to make it happen?

    It is a little brain dead.  The NetRider BOOTP loader was a
    "quick-time-to-market" project, and there are features we would have
    liked to include.   Associating load file names with MAC adddresses is
    one of them.  This feature is present in every Unix bootpd implementation
    that I've seen.  You might expect to see an enhancement like this
    feature in future releases on the NetRider loader.
    
    Regards,
    
    Dave