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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

2284.0. "Find Duplicates documentation" by CSC32::L_MORSE () Tue May 16 1995 19:25

    
    	Is there any documentation or notes discussion on the purpose
    	and displays of the Hubwatch APPLICATIONS pull down menu item
    	FIND DUPLICATES ?
    
    	What does it do ?
    
    	thanks
    	Larry
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2284.1SLINK::HOODMaine state bird: The black flyTue May 16 1995 20:391
Yes.  Try <HELP>.
2284.2help with a displayCSC32::L_MORSEThu May 18 1995 13:4529
    
    	I tried help.  thanks.
    
    	Here is her display.  She can not identify the MAC addresses found.
    	The IP addresses are of 4 900ms hubs.
    
    
         M A C                  I P         commun  Module  Port
    
    55-55-55-55-05-e0       137.241.51.27   public  1       1
    55-55-55-55-05-e0       137.241.51.12   public  5       8
    55-55-55-55-05-00       137.241.51.27   public  1       3
    55-55-55-55-05-00       137.241.51.12   public  6       8
    55-55-55-55-05-05       137.241.51.21   public  5       5
    55-55-55-55-05-05       137.241.51.27   public  1       3
    aa-aa-aa-aa-02-e0       137.241.51.21   public  5       3
    aa-aa-aa-aa-02-e0       127.241.51.12   public  6       3
    aa-aa-aa-aa-0a-e0       137.241.51.21   public  5       3
    aa-aa-aa-aa-0a-e0       137.241.51.12   public  6       2
    aa-aa-aa-aa-aa-00       137.241.51.27   public  1       2
    aa-aa-aa-aa-aa-00       137.241.34.35   public  4       6
    
    Are these MAC addresses identifiable?  The customer and I 
    cound not find these in any registry.  She will check for
    any possible loops.  They have a token ring on this LAN,
    she will look there as well.
    
    Any help to explain will be appreciated.
     
2284.3What HUBwatch version and platformSLINK::HOODMaine state bird: The black flyThu May 18 1995 14:021
What is the HUBwatch version and platform?
2284.4Look like bad CRC collision addresses to me.MSDOA::REEDJohn Reed @CBO, (803) 781-9571 NIS NetworkerThu May 18 1995 14:416
    Those addresses sure look like collision frames.  the alternating
    pattern of 1010101010 seems to occur on collision frames, created when
    the two nodes colliding didn't back off quickly enough.  They should
    have a bad CRC, and therefore (IMO) not be shown on your address list.
    
    
2284.5HW 3.1 and VMSCSC32::L_MORSEThu May 18 1995 14:563
    
    VMS and 3.1 Hubwatch (the customer said 3.1.1)
                        
2284.6same thin on 3.1/osfCSC32::SCHLABSTue May 23 1995 14:157
    I am talking to a guy who is seeing the same thing, but using hubwatch
    3.1 (I think) on digital unix.  Is this just collisions that hubwatch
    reports erroneously (as mentioned previously), or is something else up.
    My customer only sees this on on dechub..the other is ok.
    
    thanks, 
     greg
2284.7Look like remenents of packet collisions....NETCAD::BATTERSBYTue May 23 1995 14:215
    1010101010's look like packet preamble to me, so I would support
    the previous note that says they are the result of a collision
    on the wire.
    
    Bob
2284.8NETCAD::DRAGONWed May 24 1995 11:566
    
    Any chance that the customer has a DECnet node with the Ethernet
    Physical Address of AA-00-04-00-0A-E0 coming in through the 
    repeaters reported?
    
    Bob
2284.9Customer says they don'tCSC32::L_MORSETue May 30 1995 11:458
    
    RE .8
    
    I asked my customer and they do not have that node number, 
    56.10. correct ?
    
    ALM
    
2284.10Theory #2 Dead End...NETCAD::DRAGONTue May 30 1995 14:169
    
    ALM,
    
    	56.10 looks correct to me. So much for that idea.
    
    Thanks,
    Bob
    
    
2284.11how does HW poll repeater ports ?CSC32::L_MORSETue May 30 1995 17:338
    
    Another question.
    
    How does hubwatch poll the repeater ports ?  
    
    (ie getting a preamble in the source address field ?)
    
    ALM
2284.12NETCAD::DRAGONWed May 31 1995 09:2810
    
    ALM,
    
    In the case of a DECagent 90, HUBwatch does GET-NEXT on drpt90PortPhyAddr
    and drpt90PortAddrIndex. In the case of the MAM and DECrepeaters with
    their own SNMP agents erptrAddrDBPortPhyAddr, erptrAddrDBPortGroupIndex,
    and erptrAddrDBPortIndex are used to get addresses seen on repeater
    ports.
    
    Bob
2284.13More InfoNETCAD::DRAGONFri Jun 02 1995 11:5511
    
    Larry,
    
    	Do you know what repeaters are in the hubs/slots reporting those
        "bogus" duplicate addresses. Also what type of hubs they are
        (DEChub 90/900) and what SNMP agent is managing the hubs
        (MAM/DENMA)?
    
        We have seen a similiar problem.
    
    Bob
2284.14900TM, & MAM CSC32::L_MORSEWed Jun 07 1995 15:587
    
    	Still waiting on a FAX but they do have 900TM's on a 900MS.
    	I believe the MAM is used.
    
    	The customer will re-fax.
    
    	Larry
2284.15devices are 900tm'sCSC32::L_MORSETue Jun 13 1995 13:5228
    
    	RE .13
    
    	They have 13 900ms hubs in 13 buildings broken down as follows:
    
    	building	ps	bridge	900tm	90t	con
        --------	--	------	-----	---	---
    
    	1		4	1	3		1
    	2		2	1	2	1
    	3		2	1	2	1
    	4		2	1	2	1
    	5		3	1	2	1
    	6		2	1		1
    	7		2				1
    	8		2				1
    	9		2	1	1	4
    	10		2	1	2
    	11		2	1	3
    	12		2	1	2
    	13		2	1	1	3
    
    	They are really not sure but most all of the hubs have
    	seen the problem.   Also, they have a major power failure
    	and the duplicates were removed.
    
    	Larry
    
2284.16NETCAD::DRAGONTue Jun 13 1995 14:117
    
    Larry,
    
    	There was a similiar problem reported by System Test, which 
        involved the DECrepeater 90T/T+. 
    
    Bob
2284.17where's the failing component ?CSC32::L_MORSEWed Jun 14 1995 11:5511
    
    Can someone venture a statement as to the failing component here ?
    
    The repeaters or Hubwatch ?
    
    The customer sees this as a short comming of a product and would like
    a remedy.
    
    thanks
    
    Larry Morse
2284.18NETCAD::DRAGONWed Jun 14 1995 12:5114
    
    Larry,
    
    	In the case which I observed the SNMP Agent (DENMA and MAM) was
        returning bogus addresses to HUBwatch. The problem appeared to 
        occur only with DECrepeater 90T/T+ modules with the given traffic.
        
        Are the bad addresses being seen by the customer being reported
        on DECrepeater 90T/T+ slots/ports? In the case which I observed
        the same traffic was run through a DECrepeater 900TM with no
        problems seen.
    
    Bob