Title: | DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE |
Notice: | Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7 |
Moderator: | NETCAD::COLELLA DT |
Created: | Wed Nov 13 1991 |
Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 4455 |
Total number of notes: | 16761 |
Hello, I am working on a $5-10M RFP for mostly NAC related products and urgently need the answers to the following questions. I'm also sending this message to Product management but thought I would post it here too as the answers might benifit others late on. 1) To what extent does Hubwatch integrate with Hp Openview (talking about the new SunOS product) or for that matter Hubwatch with Netview on OSF/1 as I would assume what ever integration (if any) would be pretty much the same. Specifically, I understand that it is possible to launch hubwatch from a Netview map and the ip address of the hub one wishes to manage is automatically passed to hubwatch as an argument. However, I understand that synoptics hub product has additional integration featuers such as traps configuration and hubwatch equivilent messages that are sent to the OpenView event window. In summary I guess my question is, is there anything more to our Netview/Openview support other then launch? 2) Is hubwatch doing anything with SNMP II? Specifically, I would assume that this would have as much to do with when the hub devices will support SNMP II but as I really know nothing about it I guess I would like to know the following (so that I can respond intellgently to the RFP). A. Is the SNMP II done, signed off to etc. (apparently competitors are already selling products that claim so support it. B. What is SNMP II? C. Does it have any relevance to hubwatch? 3) Does Hubwatch support RMON? If so how? 4) How does hubwatch support/notify operators of configuration changes and does it have any way to pass these changes to OpenView/Netview? Does it support logging of config changes? 5) Does Hubwatch have any way to export data into flat files and if so what data will it export? 6) Is Hubwatch both MIB I and MIB II compliant? If so, how does this apply to hubwatch?
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2195.1 | Answers to 2, 3, and 6. | NETCAD::GALLAGHER | Tue Apr 18 1995 09:52 | 50 | |
Howdy, >2) Is hubwatch doing anything with SNMP II? Specifically, I would assume >that this would have as much to do with when the hub devices will support >SNMP II but as I really know nothing about it I guess I would like to know >the following (so that I can respond intellgently to the RFP). > > A. Is the SNMP II done, signed off to etc. (apparently competitors are > already selling products that claim so support it. > No, HUBwatch does not support snmpV2 nor are there any plans to support it in the near future. If you (your customer) think snmpV2 is important then please contact product management. > B. What is SNMP II? > Briefly, the next version of SNMP supports: - security (message encryption), - two new operations operators, the getBulk which is used to retrieve large amounts of table data, and the informRequest which is used by NMS to communicate changes made to a device, and, - better error reporting. > C. Does it have any relevance to hubwatch? > Yes. >3) Does Hubwatch support RMON? If so how? No. However, it may support a small subset of RMON (namely customized RMON Alarms and Events) in a future version. >6) Is Hubwatch both MIB I and MIB II compliant? If so, how does this >apply to hubwatch? Yes. Er, kind of. MIB-II is a superset of MIB-I. Devices which support MIB-II also, by definition of the word "superset", support MIB-I. All DEChub900 modules support MIB-II. There are several groups defined by MIB-II. Not all groups are supported by all devices. HUBwatch makes use of MIB-II objects supported by the devices. -Shawn | |||||
2195.2 | NetView | NETCAD::FORINO | Tue Apr 18 1995 09:58 | 11 | |
For V3.1 HUBwatch on OSF/1 only has the application launch integrated with NetView. No added functionality will be contained in the V4.0 release coming shortly. After that we will begin to add more features to better integrate HUBwatch with NetView. If you have any list of priorities for integration let us know. I also believe that a number of the HUB related MIBs are shipped with the DEC NetView product. So if you understand the MIBs and NetView features can set up some functionality yourself. John | |||||
2195.3 | Comments....! | NAC::LICAUSE | Thu Apr 20 1995 09:14 | 30 | |
>>So if you understand the MIBs and NetView features can set up some >>functionality yourself. Ah...there's the rub! Most folks don't understand the implications of many of the MIB variables, particularly those introduced in the private branches of the tree as does HUBwatch. HUBwatch does a very nice job of displaying both the MIB variable name as well as a more "English" like name with the current value. But the documentation hasn't kept up with the technology in terms of trouble shooting. When one understands what a MIB variable means and why it might change and what it means when it does change, then one can build MIB applications in Netview to quickly monitor a particular network element. But without this knowledge, it is difficult to watch the multitude of counters and variables and still make sense of them without "inside knowledge" of the technology. Another point, in early evaluation of lauching HUBwatch from Netview, the "automatic" nature of this operation was lacking. It was necessary to edit the hub objects charactertics on the map, for each hub found. Discovery of a hub, by Netview, was not enough to allow HUBwatch to be lauched from the map. John, could you comment on whether this has improved or not? Al | |||||
2195.4 | NO improvement yet | NETCAD::FORINO | Mon Apr 24 1995 10:45 | 3 | |
Unfortunately, this has not improved this time around (V4.0). John |