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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

2017.0. "DEChub 900 power supplies DOA." by CGOS01::DMARLOWE (Have you been HUBbed lately?) Wed Feb 15 1995 12:25

    I'll try to get field servive to escalate this but for 2 failures in
    the last 3 weeks, they won't.  They need more failures, sigh.
    
    We have had 2 DOA H7890-MA (900 P/S) for 2 different customers.  Also a
    major customer (AGT   100+ 900 hubs) have experienced many failures.
    
    Has anyone noticed this problem in other locations?  Just in case field
    service doesn't raise awareness, I thought I'd mention it here.
    
    dave
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2017.1Contact Power Supply GURU DELNI::MACARTHURNETCAD::BATTERSBYWed Feb 15 1995 15:397
    Dave - You might try contacting Bob Macarthur on DELNI::MACARTHUR
    He's the resident expert here in HUB Engineering on the Power Supply
    System. Tell him about what you're seeing and maybe he can tell you
    if what your customers are seeing is a known problem or something
    new.
    
    Bob
2017.2DABEAN::REAUMEmy 2 vices - GTS and coastersWed Mar 22 1995 10:238
    
      I have a DEChub 900 that works fine unless you remove one of the 
    power supplies and then re-insert it. When you do that the whole
    hub reinitializes. The other power supply slot (0) doesn't do this. 
    We tried another power supply in the slot and it did the same thing! 
      Is this a backplane problem?
    
    							-John R-
2017.3Insert/remove too fast? Yep, our PSupplies died tooPTOJJD::DANZAKPittsburgher �Wed Mar 22 1995 11:0622
    (It could be an old version of hub management code....r u running 3.1?)
    
    I think that 3.1 has some weird power management problems with it not
    being able to ID and power up modules....at least I've experienced that
    in our demo room.
    
    Also, if you remove/insert too fast, hub management may get
    confused...I think that it goes thru a cycle or so before it figures
    out that the supply is dead.   I've had similar things happen in demos
    and taken more TIME between removal and insertion - it seemed to go
    away.
    
    Dave - yes - we've had similar failures with PSupplies for the County
    here in Pittsburgh....I actually had one do sparks and zaps. (not to
    mention pe-eeew)  Am sending it back to LKG for them to play with.
    
    John - u coming back to Kennywood for the coasters? (grin) They're
    putting in a pool now.
    
    ttfn,
    j
    
2017.4DABEAN::REAUMEmy 2 vices - GTS and coastersThu Mar 23 1995 15:0310
    
      I'll check the revs out next time on site. We did try varying the
    time between removal and re-insertion. It didn't help unless you're
    talking leaving it out for more than three minutes or so. I'll post the 
    info in here soon. 
    
      Is there any decent documentation on the DEChub 900? The more I work
    with these, the more I realize what I don't know.
    
      
2017.5Power Supply only handles 100 insertions before failure.ROMEOS::HARRIS_MASales Executive IIFri Mar 24 1995 13:338
    FYI. I've been told that the Power SUpply connectors have a design
    insertion of about only 100 cycles between failures. That means you
    don't want to insert ANY power supply into a given hub slot more than
    100 times before expecting a possible failure...
    
    So I've been told.
    
    Mark