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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

1927.0. "Specify use of least flexible channel and filters" by HGODCS::RICHARDLAM () Tue Jan 24 1995 09:05

Two questions on using HUBwatch :

Question 1:
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We can specify source as well as destination address filters for DECswitch
900EF, and there is a clear difference between the two, as per Note 895.1.

Now how can I tell HUBwatch that the filter I am creating is intended to be 
a source address filter, or destination fitler ? In the 'Add Filter Entry', 
I don't see any option for defining this!


Question 2:
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When creating a LAN segment on the backplane, how can we tell HUBwatch to use 
a least-flexible split channel (i.e. 11 - 14), instead of a most-flexible one
(i.e. 1-6) ? This guideline comes from the DEChub 900 MS Management 
Fundamentals Course Guide.


..Richard
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1927.1How channel assignment more or less works.CGOS01::DMARLOWEHave you been HUBbed lately?Tue Jan 24 1995 11:5426
    I can answer question 2 right off the bat.
    
    You cannot specify which channels (wires) to use in the backplane. 
    Ethernets are created from the top down, ie.  Flex channel on upper
    connector first and 5 more on the lower connector (channels 1, 2, 3, 4 
    and 5).  FDDI's are created from the bottom up.  The hub manager
    selects the wires or channels based on what you want created.  For
    things like FDDI, the hub manager could select one of the half channels
    based on the fact that the point to point link is from slots 1-4 or
    5-8.  If the point to point link crosses the 4-5 split then the
    hub manager would use channel 10 or 9 or 8 or ....
    
    HUBWATCH only displays the LAN's you have created with no regards to 
    actual replacement of the LAN's on specific channels.  That is why you
    can have an FDDI displayed as the first LAN (or channel) when in fact
    it is really the last channel in the hub.
    
    Not only that but you can create 7 or more Ethernets on a DH 900 with
    Hubwatch.  The hub manager doesn't assign channels or wires until you
    actually connect a module to that LAN.  It only counts wires or
    channels that could be used.  Having created 8 Ethernets though, the
    hub manager will only allow the first 6 used to actually work.  The
    remainding 2 will not be used as present Ethernet modules can only use
    the first 6 Ethernets.  Confused?
    
    dave
1927.2More about question 2.NETCAD::GALLAGHERTue Jan 24 1995 12:4521
More on questions 2.  .-1 is a good description, but I'd like to
reiterate a few points.

HUBwatch doesn't know or care about which flex-channels are used.
HUBwatch communicates with the Hub Manager (aka Management Agent
Module, aka MAM) to make and break connections.

The goal of the Hub Manager's matrix allocation algorithm is described 
as, "Match the least flexible connection requests with those signals
which have the fewest other potential uses."  The Hub Manager 
retrieves information about a modules ability to connect to the
flex-channels.  From this information is determines port "flexibility"
and "signal set utility".

I only mention the gory details of the algorithm to stress that
although .-1 does a good job of describing what is done today, based
on the modules we have today, the Hub Manager can handle new modules
which break any and all of these "rules".  For example, someday there 
may be an Ethernet module which can connect to all of the flex-channels.

						-Shawn
1927.3and Question 1SLINK::HOODI'd rather be at the PenobscotTue Jan 24 1995 15:1112
And as for question 1...

The DECswitch 900EF (and the DECswitch 900EE and the DECbridge 900MX and
the PEswitch 900TX and the RoamAbout Access Point) doesn't currently support
different source/dest filters.  What actually happens (as is suggested by
HUBwatch) is that the protocol or address is not allowed to pass to/from a
specified LAN.

It's an all-in-one combo of source/dest.

Tom Hood
HUBwatch