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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

1766.0. "DR90TS Questions" by ANGLIN::CLAYTON (Merlin Clayton DTN 445-7217) Tue Dec 06 1994 12:54

I need to respond to an RFP that has requirements for stackable hubs as
follows:

	Protocol:	10Mbps 802.3 Enet frame type
	Topologies:	10BaseT level 5 UTP w/RJ45 connectors
	O/S support:	Windows for workgroups
	Management:	SNMP local and remote
	Configuration:	8 ports stackable to 64 ports

I'm thinking that the DR90TS may fit the bill for the above specs.  However,
I have a few questions relative to the 90TS...

 Q. How deep can I stack the 90TS?

 Q. What are the options for "stacking" the 90TS?
    .... 90 backplane?
    .... DEChub One?
    .... Stand alone via front panel bezels?

 Q. What happens in each of the stackable scenarios relative to repeater
    rules?  i.e., 90 backplane = 1 repeater; DEChub ONE = 1 repeater (?);
    stacked stand alone = ? repeater(s)...

 Q. What SNMP management capabilities do I have for the 90TS to small remote
    site workgroups?  What MIBs are supported?

Any help  would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Merlin
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1766.1NETCAD::HERTZBERGHistory: Love it or Leave it!Tue Dec 06 1994 18:4247
    I'll leave the SNMP discussion to someone else, but I can take a crack 
    at the stack configuration.
    
    >>  How deep can I stack the 90TS?

    Assuming you mean "how many DR90TS can I connect together to be on the
    same LAN," the answer depends on how you connect them together. 
    Normally, one would connect them together using the thinwire BNC.  In
    this case, the rules of thinwire apply... up to 30 devices 
    covering no more than 185 meters total (i.e. a "string" of up to 30 
    of the 90TS units).
    
    In a DH90 or DH900, the entire hub could be filled with repeaters.  
    This could be a "stack" of up to 8 repeaters.
    
    >>  What are the options for "stacking" the 90TS?
    >>  .... 90 backplane?
    
    Yes.  Also 900 backplane.
    
    >>  .... DEChub One?
    
    Nope, the 90TS cannot make use of the DEChub One.  It can stand alone
    (8 TP ports plus one Thinwire BNC port) or it can operate with its AUI 
    rear cover, which gives you 8 TP ports plus one AUI port. In this last 
    configuration, EITHER the AUI port OR the thinwire port can be active 
    at one time... not both (they share an internal port of the repeater).  
    The AUI configuration is therefore not very useful in a stack since 
    you lose the thinwire backbone you need to connect together the devices.
    
    >>  Stand alone via front panel bezels?
    
    The only network ports on the front bezels are TP ports.  You could use
    these in a small network to stack repeaters, but you eat up repeater
    hops fast.  There are no front panel "expansion" ports on the DETMI.

    >>  What happens in each of the stackable scenarios relative to repeater
    >>  rules?  i.e., 90 backplane = 1 repeater; DEChub ONE = 1 repeater (?);
    >>  stacked stand alone = ? repeater(s)...
    
    Only in the DH900 can multiple 90TS act as a single logical repeater. 
    They do this by connecting together using the flex channel (IMB) on the
    upper, 48-pin connector.
    
    In a configuration where the modules are connected together using
    thinwire, such as DH90 or a thinwire-connected "string," there are two
    repeater hops between any two ports.
1766.2Repeaters in general and added hopsKEIKI::WHITEMIN(2�,FWIW)Tue Dec 06 1994 19:2410
    
    	Now I'm confused, I thought that when repeater modules were used
    in DEChub 90's that a hop did not have to added between repeaters?
    	Notes in Ethernet Conference seemed to imply this.
    
    	Also for standalone situations, if the upper connectors of our
    repeater modules could be plugged together with the appropriately wired
    cable, how many could be stacked this way with no hops added.
    
    						Bill
1766.3NETCAD::HERTZBERGHistory: Love it or Leave it!Wed Dec 07 1994 08:4911
    The only way as of now to stack any of our repeater products (including
    the 90TS) with no hops added is in a DH900 using flex channel IMBs.  Any 
    notes implying or stating otherwise are in error.
    
    As for your second question, this is the thinwire BNC backbone stack I
    referred to.  You could plug up to 30 together over 185 meters, but
    again, this is not one logical repeater; there are two repeater hops
    maximum between any two ports of the stack.
    
    						Marc
                   
1766.4Do we now have stackable DETMI's?KEIKI::WHITEMIN(2�,FWIW)Mon Feb 13 1995 18:347
    
    	Does the DETRX, allow stacking of Standalone DETMI's with no added
    hop counts?
    
    						Bill
    Came across this option in CEO when trying to track down the power
    supply used for Standalone DETMI's.
1766.5NETCAD::HERTZBERGHistory: Love it or Leave it!Tue Feb 14 1995 10:014
    The DETRX hasn't been announced, to my knowledge.  When it is, the
    answer to your question will be "no."  The only "no added hop count"
    solution we have right now is the flex channel architecture on the hub
    900.