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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

1632.0. "Inexpensive IP Services?" by DPDMAI::DAVIES (Mark, SCA Area Network Consultant) Fri Oct 28 1994 10:33

    Does the DECrepeater 90TS provide IP Services for the DEChub 900?
    
    My customer is going to fill his hub with DECserver 900s and wants the
    CHEAPEST module to get IP Services from.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mark
    
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1632.1YesNETCAD::PAGLIARORich Pagliaro, Hub Products GroupFri Oct 28 1994 11:084
    Yes the DECrepeater 90TS does provide IP Services for the DEChub 900
    
    -Rich
    
1632.2Shipping ?DPDMAI::DAVIESMark, SCA Area Network ConsultantFri Oct 28 1994 11:386
    Is it shipping yet?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mark
    
1632.3DECrepeaters 90TS and 90FS are shippingNETCAD::PAGLIARORich Pagliaro, Hub Products GroupFri Oct 28 1994 13:1111
    Yes the DECrepeater 90TS is shipping.  The DECrepeater 90FS is another
    currently shipping DEChub 90 form-factor repeater which provides IP
    services for the DEChub 900MS.  The DECrepeater 90TS will only allow
    you to connect your hub filled with DECserver 900s to your external
    Ethernet via 10Base-T links.  The DECrepeater 90FS will allow you to
    connect to your external Ethernet via 10Base-FL and AUI. 
    
    Regards,
    
    Rich  

1632.4utp to thinwire??DPDMAI::DAVIESMark, SCA Area Network ConsultantFri Oct 28 1994 14:2518
    One another hurdle to jump.
    
    These folks have been using some DEChub 90s.  Everything in this
    building is THINWIRE and the DEChub 90 has DR90Cs a dn a DECbridge 90 
    in it.
    
    They want to connect the DEChub 900 to the thin wire network, but there
    will only be a DR90TS (utp) in the DEChub 900.
    
    Is their an easy/clean way to connect a utp DEChub 900 to this type of
    thinwire environment? 
    
    Any suggestions appreciated.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mark
    
1632.5You want cheap or expensive?ROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterFri Oct 28 1994 14:4419
Sure, there are several ways:

Cheapest (no hub slots consumed):

Got a spare DECrepeater 90T lying around?  Just connect it standalone with
the ThinWire into the top of the module (T-connection and terminator) and a UTP
connection off the front panel to the 90TS in the hub.

Next to cheapest (one hub slot consumed):

Stick a DECrepeater 90C or DECbridge 90 in the hub and connect the ThinWire
directly.

Pretty expensive (and one hub slot consumed):

Wait for the DECrepeater 900CP and pay for 15 more ThinWire ports than you need.
:-(

...Roger...
1632.6DEFMI + DECXMNETCAD::HERTZBERGHistory: Love it or Leave it!Fri Oct 28 1994 14:535
    This last requirement is a good argument to use the DEFMI rather
    than the DETMI... it has a front-panel AUI port so you could put a
    thinwire MAU on there and bring the thinwire in that way.  If you don't
    care too much about trading the TMI's 8 TP ports for the FMI's 2 fiber
    ports, this might be the way to go... that MAU is a pretty cheap beast.
1632.7thanks.DPDMAI::DAVIESMark, SCA Area Network ConsultantFri Oct 28 1994 15:189
    Thanks for all the responses.  Today has been a very hectic day and I
    didn't really sit down and think about this connectivity question
    before I entered it into the note.  Once I say the responses a felt a
    little dumb, or maybe frazilled (sp?) is a better term.  
    
    Anyways, thanks a lot.
    
    Mark
    
1632.8Another SuggestionMSDOA::REEDJohn Reed @CBO, DTN:367-6463, KB4FFE, SouthEastMon Oct 31 1994 13:5713
    There is always the "twister", which is a repeater with two built-in
    MAU's.  One side has a 10BaseT RJ45 jack, and the other side has a
    standard BNC 10Base2 port.  It requires power from an externally
    mounted transformer, so you need to place it near an AC outlet.  The
    twister is described in the "CDB" Fall 93 OPEN DECconnect catalog on
    page 5-35.  It's DEC part number is E0-TWIST-01, and it costs around
    $350.00US.   You can attach one side directly to a 10BaseT port in the
    DECrepater900tm, and run Coax from the DEChub90 thinwire port into the
    other side.  I don't recall if the twister performs the MDI-X function
    or not, so you may need flip cable.
    
    JR