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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

1581.0. "Remote bridge protocols to manage" by PTOJJD::DANZAK (Pittsburgher �) Sun Oct 16 1994 11:14

    If I have an EXTENDED LAN and want to manage remote DEChub90s using a
    single centrally located agent - what protocols must I permit on the
    DECbrouter 90s to the remote sites?  (i.e. which do I need to remotely
    bridge?)
    
    Thanks,
    j
    
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1581.1Probably MOP.CGOS01::DMARLOWEHave you been HUBbed lately?Mon Oct 17 1994 01:579
    Note 12 makes some mention of how the agent talks to the bridge.
    Just by the fact that you can talk to the bridge from NCP, without
    an agent, means that you will have to bridge MOP.
    
    If the bridges are required to manage the hubs, maybe you could
    put some remote DECagent 90's in place as their price has been reduced
    below that of a bridge.
    
    dave
1581.2Either way, $$$ for client - thanksPTOJJD::DANZAKPittsburgher �Mon Oct 17 1994 09:048
    RE: .-1  That's what we're thinking - however in the original design we
    told them that they could manage them all remotely etc. (aarugh) by the
    prior network consultant who has now since left. (small wonder)
    
    So we just have to deal with the mess of about 12-16 remote BROUTED
    hubs that cannot be managed....aarugh
    j
    ^--who is looking for a dull knife
1581.3RBMS, not MOPROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterMon Oct 17 1994 11:0614
RE: .0

Remote bridges are managed by the DECagent 90 using RBMS (protocol type 80-38). 
MOP (protocol type 60-02) is not used at all for the bridges (but is for the
90L/L+ terminal servers).

RE: .2

That network consultant should be drawn and quartered.  The DECagent 90 was
NEVER intended to manage remote communities through a DECbrouter 90.  If someone
said that it would, not only were they terribly WRONG but they never consulted
engineering about it.

...Roger...
1581.4Point of clarification on MOPPFSVAX::MCELWEEOpponent of OppressionWed Oct 19 1994 16:3611
    Re: .3-
    
    >Remote bridges are managed by the DECagent 90 using RBMS (protocol type 
    >80-38). MOP (protocol type 60-02) is not used at all for the bridges (but 
    >is for the 90L/L+ terminal servers).
    
    	True, RBMS is used by the DECagent 90<-> bridge, however MOP can be 
    used to directly manage the DEWGB/F via MOP remote console from a DECnet 
    host or 90L+ terminal port.
    
    Phil