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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

1531.0. "HUBwatch clarification" by MIMS::LOKIETZ_S (Steve Lokietz, DECsale, 343-1082) Wed Oct 05 1994 16:46

    
    Can someone provide a brief explanation of how HUBwatch knows which
    modules are in which (DEChub 90) slots when a DECagent is used to
    provide stats?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Steve L.
    
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1531.1The slot table knows allROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterWed Oct 05 1994 18:006
HUBwatch learns the positions of devices in the hub by querying the DECagent for
information from a data structure which is indexed by slot called the slot
table.  Each entry in the slot table contains a great deal of information about
the device in that slot, including some form of identification of the device.

...Roger...
1531.2How is this index populated?CUJO::HILLDan Hill-NetConsultant-Denver-553-3624Wed Oct 05 1994 18:298
    Hi, Roger,
    
    I know the index can be populated by polling or by manual entry.  What
    is the mechanism by which a DECagent 90 (not in the hub) determines 
    slot position when I move a module from (for example) slot 1 to slot 3?  
    
    Thanks,
    Dan
1531.3In-band to out-of-band and back to in-bandROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterWed Oct 05 1994 19:0113
There is a serial management channel in the hub backplane over which the
DECagent "speaks" a management protocol known as Left Hitchcock.  This protocol
allows the DECagent to request "WhoAreYou" information from each slot.  Devices
which support the protocol respond with identification information, including
which slot they are in.

In a hub which does not contain a DECagent, you need to have a DECbridge
90/90FL.  This device also "speaks" Left Hitchcock and can convey the slot
information to a DECagent upon request.  In this scenario, the bridge is the hub
master and the DECagent uses RBMS to request the slot information from the
bridge.

...Roger...
1531.4A bit more info, please.CUJO::HILLDan Hill-NetConsultant-Denver-553-3624Tue Oct 11 1994 11:3615
    Hi, Roger,
    
        I understand what you are saying.  Thanks very much.
    
        This is how I can use a DECagent 90 _standalone_ to manage multiple
        DEChub 90s with a DECbridge 90 in each hub.  What are the
    	limitations of using the DECbridge 90 to manage repeaters in the 
    	same hub as opposed to using a DECagent 90?
    
    	Sorry to keep asking these questions, but I don't have 
    	standalone DECagent to try this.
      
    	Thanks,
        Dan
         
1531.5What you can manage is exactly the same (it's just done differently)ROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterTue Oct 11 1994 12:238
There aren't any limitations when using a DECbridge in the hub as the device
which manages the repeaters in that hub.  Having the DECagent standalone simply
means that you have N+1 communities, where N is the number of hubs with
DECbridges in them and the +1 is the DECagent itself in its own community.
All the things you can do to manage the repeaters if you were doing so with a
DECagent in the hub can be done in a remote hub with a DECbridge.

...Roger...