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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

1308.0. "Firmware upgrades for Hubwatch 3.1?" by BIGUN::WULFF () Sun Aug 14 1994 20:45

This is a request from one of our customers.


As you are aware, I am in the process of upgrading the Hubwatch 
 application at Parliament House from V2.0 to V3.0. However, before doing 
 so there are a number of network devices on the network which need 
 firmware upgrades applied.

A list of the devices in question and the minimum firmware revisions 
 required for management from Hubwatch V3.0 are as follows :

	DECagent 90 :	V2.1.3
	DECbridge :	V3.1
	DECbridge 900MX : V1.2.1
	DEChub 900MS Hub Manager : V3.0.0
	DECserver 90TL	: Software BL44  (already using this version)
	GIGAswitch SCP Card : V2.0.0 (already using version 2.10)
	GIGAswitch Clock Card : V2.0.0 (already using version 2.10)
	GIGAswitch FGL-2 Line Card : V2.0.0 (already using this version)

With the exception of DECserver 90TLs and GIGAswitch, all other devices 
 will require a firmware upgrade at this site. This is quite an extensive 
 task due to the numbers of devices in question.

Before we proceed, could you please confirm whether Hubwatch V3.1 will 
 require further firmware upgrades to these devices. Could you also 
 indicate a likely release date for the Hubwatch V3.1 product.

Regards
Lance Rees 
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1308.1NACAD2::HAROKOPUSMon Aug 15 1994 10:418
    You should see HUBwatch V3.1 in the Spetember time frame and yes it
    will require firmware upgrades to the DEChub 900 hub manager and most
    of the modules.  These firmware releases will be available before 
    HUBwatch ships.
    
    Regards,
    
    Bob
1308.2New firmware coming soonROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterMon Aug 15 1994 11:0012
Lance,

   If your customer can wait a couple of weeks, the 60-day firmware upgrade kit
for the DEChub devices is scheduled to be submitted to the SSB on August 26. 
This kit will contain new firmware (newer than the versions you indicated in
your note) for most of the DEChub products including the DECbridge 900MX and
DEChub 900 MultiSwitch Hub Manager.  The DECagent 90 and DECbridge 90 will not
have new firmware in this upgrade kit.

   I do not have any information about the release date of HUBwatch V3.1.

...Roger...
1308.3TKTVFS::NEMOTOno facts, only interpretationsTue Aug 16 1994 10:0511
>                    <<< Note 1308.1 by NACAD2::HAROKOPUS >>>

>    You should see HUBwatch V3.1 in the Spetember time frame and yes it
>    will require firmware upgrades to the DEChub 900 hub manager and most
>    of the modules.  

Does this mean that HUBwatch V3.1 doesn't function well with current 
firmwares?

_Tak
1308.4keep hub at latest revLEVERS::HAROKOPUSTue Aug 16 1994 10:1612
    HUBwatch V3.1 may work fine with the current firmware revs however
    these are untested and unsupported configurations.  We only have
    limited testing resources so the strategy is to test with everything
    at the latest rev.    You should upgrade your hub and modules when
    the 60 day upgrade is available.     
    
    If you report problems with the upcoming V3.1 kit that is the first thing
    that we will ask you to do. 
                                             
    Regards,
    
    Bob
1308.5TKTVFS::NEMOTOno facts, only interpretationsTue Aug 16 1994 12:3218
    
>    If you report problems with the upcoming V3.1 kit that is the first thing
>    that we will ask you to do. 

I can understand what you are saying.  However -

Given a customer site where there are numbers of hubs, there seems to be
a chicken-and-egg situation.   In such a large network, it would be difficult 
to upgrade all the hubs at once and hecne be likely to have step-by-step 
upgrades where mixed versions may have to exist for a certain period time.  
..which order we take - firmware upgrade first (current/newer firmwares 
and v3.0) or HUBwatch upgrade first.  

Hope to give us your hands if there would have to have a mixed version 
configuration.

_Tak  

1308.6Backward compatibility is the Digital wayROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterTue Aug 16 1994 13:377
It is always safer to upgrade the firmware before HUBwatch.  Typically, HUBwatch
will introduce new functionality that relies on the latest firmware, but
previous versions of HUBwatch should run fine with either the "minimum firmware
versions required for that version of HUBwatch" or the latest firmware.  The
minimum firmware versions required are specified in the HUBwatch release notes.

...Roger...