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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

1191.0. "90FS and Lan Hopping" by CLPR01::PEYRACHE (Jean-Yves Peyrache Country Support Group France) Wed Jul 06 1994 12:42

  Hi, 
 
  on 90FS, Aui port and Fiber ports can be separated on 2 differents Lan under
  Dechub900/Hubwatch ??
  or you can only move the entire repeater on a IMB??

  thanks

  Jean-Yves
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1191.190FS does NOT support per-port switchingNACAD::PAGLIARORich Pagliaro, Hub Products GroupWed Jul 06 1994 13:1516
    Jean-Yves,
    
    All of the ports on a DECrepeater 90FS lan-hop together as a single
    module. The device does not support per-port switching. The same is
    true for the DECrepeater 90TS. 
    
    The DECrepeater 90FS (90TS) can connect to both the dedicated
    DEChub 900 backplane thinwire segment and the single flex channel on
    the upper 48-pin backplane. The 90FS (90TS) can connect to either LAN
    segment individually or both at the same time.  When the 90FS (90TS) 
    is connected to both at the same time, the module repeats between the
    backplane thinwire segment and flex channel segment.
    
    Regards,
                                                       
    Rich 
1191.2No=Never ???CLPR01::PEYRACHEJean-Yves Peyrache Country Support Group FranceWed Jul 06 1994 13:578
 

 thanks rich
  
  No possibility of firmware update that/s support this feature in the future
 or it's really hardware limited ?

  Jean-Yves
1191.3NeverNACAD::PAGLIARORich Pagliaro, Hub Products GroupWed Jul 06 1994 14:153
    The 90FS hardware is not designed to support per-port lan hopping.
    
    -Rich
1191.4Just curious...CLPR01::PEYRACHEJean-Yves Peyrache Country Support Group FranceThu Jul 07 1994 04:2913
 Rich,

  Just for Personal interest,
 can you explain why are you (engeenering) 
 design this kind of repeaters (90FS,900TM,900GM) as opposite to 900FP .

   Architectural ?

   Cost ?

 thanks

 Jean-Yves
1191.5KALI::HERTZBERGHistory: Love it or Leave it!Fri Jul 08 1994 18:197
    The current wave of repeaters you mention meet the demands of the
    majority of our customers, use available silicon, and are reasonably
    priced.  
    
    The world is changing continuously, though, and so will we, you'll see!
    
    							Marc
1191.6Marketing language.......PADNOM::PEYRACHEJean-Yves Peyrache Country Support Group FranceTue Jul 12 1994 06:383
  thanks Marc,

i understand the Marketing point of view, but for the technical point of view ??
1191.7But it _has_ to be a marketing answer!NACAD2::HERTZBERGHistory: Love it or Leave it!Tue Jul 12 1994 12:3418
    Well, I'm a technical guy, the hardware designer of several of the
    products you're asking about, and I didn't set out to answer your
    question from a marketing point of view.  The point is that the reason 
    we build things certain ways are driven by the market.
    
    There's no technical or architectural reason we couldn't have set out 
    to build every product with per-port switching.  This would have
    increased the complexity and thus the per-port cost and time-to-market 
    of the products significantly.  Higher cost or longer time-to-market
    could have put us out of business, all for a feature which is not
    mandatory for us to sell product to most customers.
    
    Time marches on and the market changes.  We are trying to continue to
    make the right decisions as to what features to build into products
    which will ship in the coming months and years.
    
    							Marc
                                                   
1191.8Taste of designPADNOM::PEYRACHEJean-Yves Peyrache Country Support Group FranceWed Jul 13 1994 05:387
Marc,

 take it easy, i want only (and most customers) understand,why some kinds
 of repeater (900TM) can repeat between to lan ,as comparate to just moved from
 one lan to another.

 Jean-Yves