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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
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Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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1136.0. "Config Questions" by ANGLIN::CLAYTON (Merlin Clayton DTN 445-7217) Mon Jun 20 1994 18:13

I have two customer questions relative to DEChub 900 configurations:

Q1.  Can you connect a DEChub 10BaseT repeater directly to a Chipcom 
     10BaseT repeater module in an ONline concentrator, or is a bridge 
     required?

Q2.  Can the 900MX 10BaseT repeater in a standalone config be daisy chained
     with other 900MX repeaters to form a stackable workgroup configuration.
     If so, how many can be daisy chained?

Tahnks.

Merlin

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1136.1Watch your repeater hop countLEVERS::PAGLIARORich Pagliaro, Hub Products GroupTue Jun 21 1994 10:1634
>>  Q1.  Can you connect a DEChub 10BaseT repeater directly to a Chipcom
>>       10BaseT repeater module in an ONline concentrator, or is a bridge
>>       required?
	
    Yes, you can connect any 2 10BaseT compliant repeaters directly
    together, regardless of the vendor (ideally). Of course you must be
    mindful of the total number of repeater hops in your LAN and you would
    need a cross-over cable to connect the 2 repeaters.

>>  Q2.  Can the 900MX 10BaseT repeater in a standalone config be daisy
>>       chained with other 900MX repeaters to form a stackable workgroup
>>       configuration. If so, how many can be daisy chained? 
         
    I assume you mean DECrepeater 900TM or DECrepeater 900GM 10BaseT
    repeaters.  900MX refers to the DECbridge 900MX which has 4 front bezel
    10BaseT BRIDGE ports and 2 front bezel AUI BRIDGE ports. 

    That being said, you can daisy-chain up to 4 DECrepeater 900TMs
    together via 10BaseT links. This results in a maximum 4 repeater hop
    count between 2 stations connected to this workgroup. You would not be
    able to connect this "stackable workgroup" to any other repeater in
    your LAN since you used up your 4 repeater hop budget creating this
    workgroup.
    
    An alternative way to connect multiple stand-alone DECrepeater 900TMs
    to form a "stackable workgroup" is to attach a Thinwire MAU to the AUI
    port of each repeater's DEChub ONE docking station. You then
    daisy-chain Thinwire coax between the Thinwire MAUs. This allows you to
    connect approximately 28 repeaters together with only 2 repeater hops
    between any 2 stations connected to the workgroup.
    
    Regards,
    
    Rich  
1136.2Clarification?ANGLIN::CLAYTONMerlin Clayton DTN 445-7217Tue Jun 21 1994 11:0726
>>    I assume you mean DECrepeater 900TM or DECrepeater 900GM 10BaseT
>>    repeaters.  900MX refers to the DECbridge 900MX which has 4 front bezel
>>    10BaseT BRIDGE ports and 2 front bezel AUI BRIDGE ports. 

	Yes.  I did mean the 900TM repeater - I just had a mental lapse on 
	suffixes.

>>    An alternative way to connect multiple stand-alone DECrepeater 900TMs
>>    to form a "stackable workgroup" is to attach a Thinwire MAU to the AUI
>>    port of each repeater's DEChub ONE docking station. You then
>>    daisy-chain Thinwire coax between the Thinwire MAUs. This allows you to
>>    connect approximately 28 repeaters together with only 2 repeater hops
>>    between any 2 stations connected to the workgroup.

	OK.  But if you were connecting the workgroup to a backbone it would
	require that the backbone be thinwire also, right?  I cann't think of
	a clean way to connect the workgroup to a fiber backbone, and then 
	connect subsequent repeaters via thinwire.  Possibly using a 
	DECrepeater 90FA at the headend to connect to the fiber backbone, 
        and running coax from the thinwire port to the DECrepeater 900TMs
	in the workgroup is workable.  What do you think?


    Regards,
    
    Merlin
1136.3The plot thickens...LEVERS::PAGLIARORich Pagliaro, Hub Products GroupTue Jun 21 1994 12:0322
    I think your idea of using a DECrepeater 90FA at the headend is a good
    solution and would certainly work. Another option is to substitute a
    DECrepeater 900GM for one of the 900TMs. The 900GM has 24 front bezel
    10BaseT ports (using 2 50-pin Telco style connectors) plus a front
    bezel AUI port in addition to the DEChub ONE AUI port. You would use
    one AUI port to connect to your fiber backbone and one AUI port to
    connect to your workgroup Thinwire segment. You obviously also need the
    correct cable adaptors to convert the 2 telco connectors to 24 RJ-45
    connectors.

    A third option is to connect the AUI port of one stand-alone
    DECrepeater 900TM to your fiber backbone and connect that repeater to
    the rest of your thinwire-attached workgroup via a front-bezel 10BaseT
    connection. This would result in a maximum of 3 repeater hops between
    stations in your workgroup. You still have to be concerned with the
    total repeater hops in your LAN. Will your repeater workgroup be
    connected to a bridge or another repeater on the other end of the
    backbone fiber? 

    Regards,
    
    Rich