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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

1005.0. "NETWARE MGMT SW & DH900 MGMT - CAN DO?" by SNOC01::KOOLE () Thu May 19 1994 04:21

    Hi,
    	I have a customer wanting to know if they can manage DH900's from
    Netware Management Software (NMS).
    
    	My questions are :
    
    	1. Does anyone have a good overview description of how NMS works ?
    
    	2a. Can NMS be used to manage the DH900 ?  
    	
    	2b. If so, how ?  (ie what do you / don't u get ? what needs to be
    done to make it work ?)
    
    	thanks
    
    	John SNOC01::KOOLE
    	
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1005.1QUIVER::SLAWRENCEMon May 23 1994 12:188
    If the answer to #1 is that it is an SNMP manager that can compile a
    MIB, then the _theoretical_ answer to the rest is that it _could_ be
    done, but functions like backplane configuration are so complex even
    with the MIB that I would never recommend that a customer try to do
    them by hand.  
    
    Basic monitoring of the things you would want to put alarms on would be
    pretty easy, though.
1005.2the story on "open" SNMPLEVERS::ANILMon May 23 1994 21:3747
    The DEChub 900 modules implement a variety of MIBs.  Some of these
    are standard IETF MIBs; in this case they are RFC's and are
    usually implemented by a large number of vendors on relevant
    products.  For example: MIB-II, Ethernet MIB, Repeater MIB,
    Bridge MIB, FDDI MIB, etc.  Some MIBs are Digital-specific
    extensions, for situations when there is more information available
    from the module than is specified in the standard MIBs.  Finally
    vendor MIBs are needed when there is no existing standard MIB - the
    "Chassis MIB" used to manage the 900 Hub Manager is an example.
    
    HUBwatch assimilates information from both standard and Digital
    vendor MIBs, and presents key data to the user through a
    user-friendly graphical interface.  As a user, it makes life a
    whole lot easier to have the vendor that made the product present
    the interface.
    
    Vendor-specific MIBs can be monitored by "generic SNMP managers".
    It is possible to read and write variables that are specified
    in the MIB.  However, the customer now needs to read and understand
    the MIBs.  In the case of "LAN hopping", this is especially difficult
    simply because of the complexity of the associated MIB.
    
    Since a standard MIB is specified by the IETF committees and is
    implemented across the industry, prominent NMS vendors (eg, HP)
    will write applications on their platform that use information in
    the MIB to monitor and manipulate all products that implement it.
    Obviously, this can't be done for vendor MIB extensions since each
    vendor has different extensions depending on their own value-add.
    However, this makes it possible to manage a number of products
    via a user-friendly interface with another vendor's manager - at
    least the standard MIB part.  The advantage is that key information from
    different vendors' boxes for a specific function can be managed with
    exactly the same interface without understanding the MIB.  Also,
    the user can depend on getting a minimum subset of information
    from any vendor for a particular function.  This is
    the value of implementing standard RFC MIBs rather than only vendor
    MIBs; it's what makes SNMP "open".  Unfortunately a large number
    of vendors will implement vendor MIBs only - in effect the use of
    the SNMP protocol is defeated since they can't be managed easily
    with another vendor's manager.  Partly because of this, there is not
    currently a large number of applications available for standard MIBs.
    However with the growing adoption of standard MIBs, this can't be too
    far away.  (By the way, this is a strong selling point of the DEChub
    900 modules; we implement standard MIBs wherever possible, where many
    other vendors don't.)
    
    Anil