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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

979.0. "Probewatch Windows problems" by WARNUT::64021::Tim_Banks (Network Mercenary) Thu May 12 1994 06:48

I am having a few problems with the FT Probe watch windows kit.

I have PW 5.0 on my PC, and can run HUBwatch with it just fine, and I can 
ping the probes OK, so I don't believe that the IP stack is a problem.

I have the hosts file set up and have added agents to the agents file, (see 
attached).

When I start probewatch I get a message in the bottom of the window

	"SNMP-TRAP port 162 is already in use"

Is that a problem?

When I selected a probe and click on domain view, I get a window that says 
"unknown agent RMON1 - check hosts file"

I can't see what I am doing wrong, any pointers?

	Thanks

		Tim
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#    Filename: hosts.                                                       
#    Host entries should be added below. The IP address and its 
# associated hostname are required for each entry. One or more aliases 
# and a comment are optional. Use tabs or spaces to separate fields. 
# The # character is a comment field delimeter. Any data on the same 
# line following this character will be ignored.  
#    The following example contains one IP address followed by a hostname 
# using the full domain specification, one alias and a comment.         
# 10.1.2.3	wizard.oz.edu	wiz   	#[email protected] allowed.   
##########################################################################
16.20.216.167	RMON6.LKG.DEC.COM	RMON6
16.20.216.162	RMON1.LKG.DEC.COM	RMON1 
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979.11 fix, 1 ?DPDMAI::DAVIESMark, SCA Area Network ConsultantThu May 12 1994 11:4219
    I get the "SNMP-TRAP port 162 is already in use" also and have no idea
    what it means.
    
    Concerning the "Unknown agent "RMON1", Check Host file!", I have found
    via my testing that this occurs when PROBEwatch cannot find the
    RMON1.AGE.  When the memo said make a copy of PPROBE1.AGE, you also
    have to change the name of the file to be the name of your probe.  My
    probe works fine in this respect.
    
    I recreated this problem on my system by bringing up PROBEwatch,
    clicking on Configure->Add Agent and then entering a random value for a
    agent name.  This is then added to the list of agents. Then, by
    selecting  the random agent name and then clicking on Domain View will
    give the "Unkown agent" message.
    
    Regards,
    
    Mark
    
979.2*.AGE correctWARNUT::64021::Tim_BanksNetwork MercenaryThu May 12 1994 13:4817
When you add a probe from the menu, it automatically creates a file probe.age 
with the probe details in it.  So my files rmon1.age and rmon6.age are in 
C:\nsclients directory, as is the hosts file.  It sounds to me that 
probewatch doesn't even try to read the hosts file as there is no disk 
activity at the point where you click domain view.

When launching the the probewatch application from windows, do you need a 
path set to C:\NSCLIENTS, a working directory set to C:\nsclients, etc?

I checked that the .age and host files are correct as I said above but still 
no go.

Any other ideas?

	Thanks

		Tim
979.3examples please...WARNUT::64021::Tim_BanksNetwork MercenaryThu May 12 1994 13:515
Just a thought, can you post an copy of the files you use, so I can check 
what I am doing.

	Thanks again
			Tim
979.4sigh.....KAOFS::S_HYNDMANAcronym Decoder Ring ArchitectThu May 12 1994 16:137
    
    
    I have exactly the same problem as the base note.  
    
    Any ideas?  
    
    Scott
979.5DNS problemWARNUT::64021::Tim_BanksNetwork MercenaryFri May 13 1994 05:1013
Looking at a trace from IRIS, it looks to me like a DNS problem somewhere. I 
see the DNS request go out and a reply come back, but PW doesn't appear to do 
anything with it.

Can you set up a host file without providing a full name rmon1.lkg.dec.com?

What I see happening is that if I take the full name out and just use the 
alias, it still tries to use DNS.  DNS on the PC is working as I can ping 
using a full name and that works fine.

Frustrated......I want to play with the new toy!!!  :-)

	Tim
979.6STKMCC::LUNDNiklas LundFri May 13 1994 06:275
Hi,

I copied the hosts file to hubwatch\ipstack to solve this problem.

/Niklas
979.7Put hosts in IPstack directoryWARNUT::64021::Tim_BanksNetwork MercenaryFri May 13 1994 10:035
Yep. That fixed it OK!!

	Good one!

	Tim
979.8KAOFS::S_HYNDMANAcronym Decoder Ring ArchitectFri May 13 1994 11:407
    
    
    	Yep, it works with the ipstack for Hubwatch.  What do we need to
    setup for use with Pathworks V5 stack?
    
    
    Scott
979.9HUBWatch IP stack = PWKs 5.0WOTVAX::64021::Tim_BanksNetwork MercenaryWed May 18 1994 09:144
RE: -1 they are the same thing, I run my PC with PWks 5.0 and the IP stack 
works fine with the FT PROBEwatch s/w.

	Tim
979.10KAOFS::S_HYNDMANAcronym Decoder Ring ArchitectWed May 18 1994 13:3610
    
    
    	Well PV5 doesn't work for me.  I have an alternate startup for
    Hubwatch and Probewatch will only work when the Hubwatch stack is used.
    Why should we have to move the hosts file to the ipstack directory from
    hubwatch for Probewatch to work?
    
    Hmmmm....
    
    Scott
979.11error on windows exit?WOTVAX::64021::Tim_BanksNetwork MercenaryFri May 20 1994 05:446
Has anyone else found that after running probewatch, and closing windows on 
the PC instead of going directly to the DOS prompt, you get a message "ann 
application was communicating with the network......", and when clearing that 
message, you get a mosaic on the screen, and then the DOS prompt?

	Tim
979.12KAOFS::S_HYNDMANAcronym Decoder Ring ArchitectFri May 20 1994 13:515
    
    
    Yep. Same problem.
    
    Scott
979.13same againWELSWS::GREENRCuriosity Killed The CatWed Jun 01 1994 07:322
    me to
    ross
979.14all better now?NAC::FORRESTWed Jul 06 1994 19:1711
	Hopefully, all of these are solved with the released kit, which 
	allows you to install PROBEwatch in any directory. It will put 
	the hosts file in the /ipstack subdirectory if you install the 
	network from the kit. Otherwise, it expect the hosts file to be 
	in the directory where your IP stack is located.

	I've tried to explain the DNS vs hosts file operation in the 
	README.TXT. If this isn't sufficient, please let me know.

	jack