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| 959.1 | V3 for OpenVMS and OSF/1. Not in V3 for Windows | SLINK::HOOD | I'd rather be surfing | Thu May 05 1994 11:06 | 4 |
| HUBwatch for (OpenVMS and OSF/1) V3.0 support the GIGAswitch.
It will *not* be in HUBwatch for Windows V3.0. I'm not sure if it will be
in a future version of the Windows product.
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| 959.2 | Why no support for GIGAswitch? | CGOS01::DMARLOWE | Have you been HUBbed lately? | Mon May 09 1994 14:41 | 31 |
| re. .1
GIGAswitch not *ever* supported under HUBWATCH for WINDOWS??
This is interesting because at NET-U or whatever they chose to call
it, they mentioned that HUBWATCH for WINDOWS will catch up to the
OpenVMS in terms of version release. AND maybe in the future it
may be released before OpenVMS. Now there is a possibility of not
putting GIGAswitch support in one of the releases.
So what we have is a single network application that WAS supposed
to run on many platforms and look the same no matter where you go
could become "Yes you can manage those 100 DEChub 900's you just
bought with HUBWATCH for WINDOWS. Oh, and you want to manage those
8 GIGAswitches too?. Sorry you'll have to spend another $25K to
get a VAXstation and $3K for HUBWATCH because we won't "PORT" that
to WINDOWS".
This just makes the field job that much harder rather than easy.
It should be one application, one version, many platforms. I don't
care if GIGAswitch support is ONE version late just don't make it
never.
Bill Seaver, any comments??
Per chance should someone poll the field?????
dave
PS. I have an $800K RFI riding on the answers given to us at NET-U.
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| 959.3 | | SLINK::HOOD | I'd rather be surfing | Mon May 09 1994 15:28 | 20 |
| > GIGAswitch not *ever* supported under HUBWATCH for WINDOWS??
Dave, that is *NOT* what I said in .1
It's a big job to put 200 pounds of sh*t into a 100 pound bag. A PC is a 100
pound bag. To get support for the new bridge, new repeaters, the fddi
stuff and so on, and to ship the Windows version in a short time requires
some trade-offs. For version 3.0, the Windows version supports the DEChub
stuff to pretty much the same degree that 3.0 for OpenVMS and OSF/1 do. It
does not, however, support the GIGAswitch stuff. The OpenVMS and OSF/1
versions do support it.
I haven't heard anything one-way-or-the-other about whether the next release
(4.0?) will support GIGAswitch on the PC. Maybe it will, maybe it won't.
Our motto: We do what we can, and add a little more, and we ship as soon as
we possibly can.
Tom Hood
Who'd rather be surfing.
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| 959.4 | Answer: FWUMP! | CGOS01::DMARLOWE | Have you been HUBbed lately? | Tue May 10 1994 11:59 | 23 |
| Tom,
I do understand the short development time and trying to get stuff
out the door. The 90/900 network products are probably the most
popular products we have ever had in this company. That puts strains
on the field trying to get temper customer demands to match product
development and manufacturing. That puts strains on product
development because we need to catch up/over take the competition in
terms of functionality and features. And as for manufacturing,
we can sell all that they make usually and for the DECbridge 900, more.
I know the goal is to get releases on all platforms to occur
simultaniously. Maybe the day will come when WINDOWS will lead
OpenVMS in terms of release date. At least that is what they told
us at NET-U. 8^) I hope that most of this stuff can fit in the
PC, even if it is a version or (gulp) 2 behind. Hopefully product
management will keep the field informed so we know what's happening
and what to expect.
dave
Question: When you put 200 pounds of sh*t in a 100 pound PC and drop
it, what sound does it make?
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| 959.5 | GIGASWITCH support is planned for Windows | NAC::FORREST | | Wed Jul 06 1994 17:12 | 3 |
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GIGASWITCH support is planned for HUBwatch for Windows V4.0,
the next release after V3.1 goes out in September.
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| 959.6 | The rational | NACAD::SWEET | | Thu Jul 07 1994 14:53 | 16 |
| Yes GIGAswitch will be in HUBwatch V4.0 for Windows. To help bring some
additional rational to this decision we (and the GIGAswitch product
management) made this tradeoff:
1. We sell alot more HUBs (and modules) than GIGAswitchs.
2. The HUBs scale much lower than the GIGAswitch thus PC based
management is needed ASAP.
3. GIGAswitch is high end and ALPHA's or VAX's are likely in that
enviroment.
4. To have added GIGAswitch to HUBwatch for Windows V3.1 would have
slipped the release 1-2 months.
I think the decision is a good one and I think most of the field
would agree.
Bruce
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