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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

930.0. "Hubwatch security ?" by STKAI1::KYLANDER () Sat Apr 23 1994 08:53

    Hi,
    
    A Hubwatch question:
    
    Is it possible within the Hubwatch software to prevent anyone to use
    the Hubwatch product, some kind of hubwatch password ?
    
    This is important in the PC version.
    
                                                    
    Im sorry but Im not familiar with the product yet.
    
    Thomas
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930.1SLINK::HOODI'd rather be surfingMon Apr 25 1994 11:191
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930.2WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SECURE?DELNI::ROUNDSMon Apr 25 1994 18:444
    What is your reason for securing Hubwatch? Is it to secure Hubwatch or
    is it to make sure that users DO NOT change any hub settings? You can
    set up your hubs so that people cannot alter the configs. GETs only;no
    sets.
930.3How to set up read-only community?ZPOVC::DAIV01::FUNGSIONGDigital Indonesia - NetworksWed Jun 15 1994 07:3715
    Hi, 
    
    Similar question. If I set the SNMP community string to something, 
    and I set the In-Band Management IP address, other unprivilleged
    people who do not know the IP address and SNMP community will not
    be allowed to connect. But after I connect, both the IP address
    and the community is displayed on the screen, so that someone
    who by accident sees the combination can connect to the HUB and
    changes the config.
    
    How can I set up a "read-only" community? I don't seem to know
    any menu in HUB MANAGER setup menu to do that.
    
    Rgrds,
    Fung Siong
930.4it can be done...with a little work.NACAD::WILSONWed Jun 15 1994 12:0723
There is a MIB variable available in the pcom MIB for read-only community.
It is pcomSnmpAuthReadOnlyCommunity.

In order to set this MIB variable you would need to use some kind of tool.
HUBwatch does not allow you to set this, and there is no option on the DEChub
900 console.

After you make the change to the read-only community string you must do a
reset on the DEChub.  This is required in order for the new read-only 
community string to be inherited by the modules in the hub.

Then you can start HUBwatch with the read-only community.  But, note that
you won't be able make any changes.  If you try to set something you
should receive a message stating "Timed out while waiting for SET response
from xxxx. The SET may have failed." 

If someone sees your IP address and community string this, to me, means 
they were in your office when HUBwatch was up and running.  If they have 
that kind of access you better trust that they won't do anything that 
they shouldn't.

Karen 
HUBwatch development
930.5Use POLYCENTER Netview?ZPOVC::DAIV01::FUNGSIONGDigital Indonesia - NetworksWed Jun 15 1994 22:2216
    Hi Karen,
    
    
    Can I use some SNMP Manager to set up this particular MIB variable,
    such as POLYCENTER NetView? Is there any plan to include this
    functionality in the next release of HUBwatch?
    
    We often demo our hub + HUBwatch (in our operational office network) to
    customers; surely they will be able to see the IP/community combination
    in the display. It is just nice (and safer) if we can show them a
    "read-only" version of the network management in action.
    
    
    Thanks for your info,
    Fung Siong
    Digital Indonesia
930.6Restricting SNMP to specified addressesNACAD2::SLAWRENCEThu Jun 16 1994 09:4318
    
    Using other variables in the same pcomSnmpAuth group it is possible to
    restrict SNMP operations to particular IP addresses.  The comments in
    the MIB provide a good explantion of how to do this.
    
    You can compile this MIB with PNV and manipulate it that way.  I
    recommend reading the comments in the MIB carefully before you do
    anything. 
    
    IP address spoofing is not that hard, but this does provide one more
    check (especially if you legitimate NMS is somehow monitoring the net
    for others trying to use its address).
    
    The MIB is available from ftp.digital.com in /pub/DEC/hub900/mibs (see
    the README file), or from:
                                                                  
       
    http://www-dechub.lkg.dec.com/internal-info/architecture/mibs/pub-common.html
930.7yes and maybeNACAD::WILSONThu Jun 16 1994 11:2020
>>  Can I use some SNMP Manager to set up this particular MIB variable,
>>  such as POLYCENTER NetView? 

Yes, if it provides a mechanism for setting a specific MIB variable.  
I must admit I haven't used POLYCENTER NetView.

>>  Is there any plan to include this
>>  functionality in the next release of HUBwatch?

If you mean the ability to set the read-only community for a hub, that
should be provided in HUBwatch V4.0.  

But, if you mean the ability of setting any MIB variable for any of the
MIBs, I don't believe that we'll provide that feature.  HUBwatch is meant
to be a manager of the DEChub products.  It isn't meant to provide all 
of the features that you can get from, say, POLYCENTER NetView.

Hope this helps,
Karen