[Search for users] [Overall Top Noters] [List of all Conferences] [Download this site]

Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

865.0. "DECrepeater900 and collisions." by PADNOM::PEYRACHE (Jean-Yves Peyrache Country Support Group France) Mon Mar 28 1994 06:24


 hi , 
 
 about Repeater900TM status windows under hubwatch
can anybody explain the meaning of "transmit Collisions" counters in deep
and how this value is calculated ?


 thanks a lot

 Jean-Yves
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
865.1Transmit collisionLEVERS::PAGLIARORich Pagliaro, Hub Products GroupTue Mar 29 1994 13:3920
    Generally, the transmit collision counter is a measure of the number of
    times any of the repeater's ports participated in causing a collision
    on an attached segment. In contrast, a repeater also detects and
    responds to receive-mode collisions where two or more stations
    collide on a segment to which a repeater port is connected and the
    repeater port is not involved in causing the collision.
    
    Strictly speaking the transmit collisions counter counts the number of
    times the repeater state machine enters the TRANSMIT COLLISION state
    from any state other than ONE PORT LEFT. (See figure 9-2 of the IEEE
    802.3 specification). It should be noted that multiple DECrepeater900TMs
    connected to the same DEChub 900 flex channel (IMB) act in concert as a
    single repeater state machine. Therefore, the transmit collision
    counter of one such DECrepeater 900TM module will increment if a port
    of another DECrepeater 900TM on the same flex channel is involved in a
    collision.
    
    These counters are maintained by repeater hardware.
    
    -Rich Pagliaro    
865.2merci..PADNOM::PEYRACHEJean-Yves Peyrache Country Support Group FranceWed Mar 30 1994 03:425

 thanks for this infos

  Jean-Yves
865.3Collisions on a TP port ???ZUR01::SCHNEIDERRThu Jun 09 1994 09:514
I saw on our DECrepeater900TM many collisions on the TP ports. How can a 
collision occour on a TP port??

Roland
865.4NACAD2::HERTZBERGHistory: Love it or Leave it!Fri Jun 10 1994 11:086
    Collision happens when the station attached to the TP port transmits
    into the repeater at the same time the repeater has traffic from some
    other connection (e.g., another TP port, backplane ThinWire or IMB,
    etc.).
    
    							Marc
865.5There must beLEVERS::PAGLIARORich Pagliaro, Hub Products GroupFri Jun 10 1994 11:1214
>>  I saw on our DECrepeater900TM many collisions on the TP ports. How can
>>  a collision occour on a TP port??
    
    Easily...whenever the repeater is transmitting out a port and a station
    connected to that port is transmitting at the same time. While 10BaseT
    is a duplex link (i.e. separate transmit and receive data paths), the
    devices connected to each end of the link are still half-duplex. A
    station detects a collision whenever it simultaneously receives and
    transmits data. 
    
    Regards,
    
    Rich
    
865.6Got a better card, then what?CGOS01::DMARLOWEHave you been HUBbed lately?Fri Jun 10 1994 13:533
    What happens when you use full duplex Ethernet cards like the DE 425?
    
    dave
865.7Don't connect a FDX card to a repeaterLEVERS::PAGLIARORich Pagliaro, Hub Products GroupFri Jun 10 1994 14:094
    Full duplex Ethernet will eliminate collisions but the DECrepeater
    900TM (or any 802.3 complient repeater) does not support full duplex
    Ethernet.
    
865.8Full Duplex ethernet cards?DPDMAI::DAVIESMark, SCA Area Network ConsultantTue Jun 14 1994 17:4112
    re: .-1
    
    Digital makes full duplex ethernet cards for PCs (DE 425)?  I am
    familiar with full duplex ethernet and our bridge implementations, I
    just wasn't aware we built cards for systems?
    
    Is this true?
    
    thanks,
    
    Mark
    
865.9Check UPSAR::ETHERNET LEVERS::PAGLIARORich Pagliaro, Hub Products GroupTue Jun 14 1994 18:2410
    Digital does not currently build any DEChub-based full-duplex ethernet
    modules. I do not know what Digital sells/builds in the way of
    full-duplex ethernet adaptors/NICs.
    
    Perhaps you might have better luck asking that question in the 
    UPSAR::ETHERNET conference.
                    
    Regards,
    
    Rich