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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

552.0. "HB900 input pwr consumption" by VAXRIO::ROLF (Vaporware Design Specialist) Thu Dec 09 1993 12:45

    Cannot find a clear reference to AC mains power consumption of the 
    HUB900. 
    
    I need to know if a 1 KVa UPS will handle a fully loaded HUB, or if
    1.5 KVa is a MUST. 
    
    This may look unimportant, but we are talking about some 60 HUB900's
    here and it may make quite a difference in the end!
    
    Any help appreciated!
    
    Rolf, DEC Brazil
    
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552.1QUIVER::SLAWRENCEThu Dec 09 1993 13:1610
    I'm not sure this answers your question, but the maximum power for the
    hub is 560 watts (140 watts X 4 power supplies), and it would actually
    draw no more than 3/4 of that because the 4th supply is redundant (3
    will power a full hub).
    
    If that still results in the higher number, don't dispair; if all you
    are talking about is repeaters they draw even less than that.
    
    You can calculate the total power for the hub from the table Ed Buzzel
    posted the other day.
552.2ThanksVAXRIO::ROLFVaporware Design SpecialistThu Dec 09 1993 13:4314
    Thanks -.1
    
    You probably helped me reach a conclusion, indirectly:
    
    If we have 3 supplies actively delivering 140 Watts each, they total
    420 Watts, so even if the power supplies run at a low efficiency rate of
    50%, that would still only total 840W from the AC mains, so a 1 KVa UPS
    should surely be able to handle that load.
    
    Can anyone else confirm?
    
    Thank you!
    
    Rolf
552.3still not happyVAXRIO::ROLFVaporware Design SpecialistMon Dec 13 1993 12:0114
    Here I am, coming back to my own initial question.
    
    Now I need to know if the HUB900 power supply is of the switching type.
    I know most supplies today are, but I cannot see it in black and white
    anywhere, and I need to take a decision between configuring SHORT-break
    or NO-break units.
    
    I am thinking of using one 1.5 KVa Short-break unit for each pair of
    HUB900's. 
    
    Am I going to be committing a crime?
    
    Rolf, DEC Brazil
                     
552.4the authoritative wordQUIVER::SLAWRENCETue Dec 14 1993 16:0412
    I forwarded your question to the power guy and got the following back: 
    
    The answer is that the power supplies for the HUB 900 are switching
    power supplies.  Operating frequency for the AC-48V converter front end
    in each supply is approximately 90kHz. A fully loaded system (3
    supplies at close to max load) will draw somewhere near 1kVA. If the
    two HUB's mentioned in the attached message are not near full load,
    then they'll probably be fine operating from a 1.5kVA short break
    system. If the load increases, then I'd suggest a 2kVA system. At first
    glance this appears to be overkill, but when you consider that the
    supplies are not very efficient due to the two conversion stages
    (AC-48V and then 48V to 5 and 15V) then it makes more sense.
552.5Note of ThanksVAXRIO::ROLFVaporware Design SpecialistWed Dec 15 1993 07:405
    -.1
    
    Thank you for helping to get this answered. 
    
    Rolf