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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

273.0. "DECagent V1.1 Can't See Brouter90 in DEChub..?" by CSC32::BLACKMER (Ralph Blackmer CSC/CS/IISG Netsupport) Wed Jun 16 1993 13:30

I have a customer with a Brouter 90 in a DEChub90 with a DECagent module running
V1.1. The hub also has an FA and FL repeater and DECserver90TL in it.

Initially the agent could not see anything in the hub but after V1.1 was put on
the agent, it would show the repeaters. The hub can't see the server properly but
I have already discovered the server requires upgrade to the next release of
server software.

The DECagent still can not see the DECbrouter 90 though. The brouter has not yet
been configured. It will be configured to run DECnet, Internet and X.25.

I believe the agent requires V2.0 (OR "??") in order to identify the Brouter. I
am not clear on this and can't seem to find any references so far. I can compile
additional detail if necessary.

Can someone clerify if possible? I do have some pointers to more information on
the agent but see nothing that indicates brouter support or minimum version 
requireements for brouter support.

Ralph Blackmer  IISG Netsupport
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273.1brouter and TL have their own agentsNAC::SEAVERBill Seaver, HUBwatch MktgMon Jul 05 1993 18:4010
    The agent will not "see" either the  TL or the brouter.  They both have
    integral SNMP agents and thus do not need (or sue the agent to talke
    SNMP).  HUBwatch (VMS2.0- September) will manage the brouter.  Current
    version of VMS will manage the TL.  Windows 1.1 (September) will manage
    both the brouter and the Tl thru raw SNMP, in fact V1.0 (out now) will
    manage both as stand alone devices.
    
    AS far as seeing the repeaters, did you have a bridge in the hub or
    were you doing this thru the brouter?  Thisis important to me because I
    was told this was not supported in this release of the brouter.
273.2DECagent 90 V1.1 manages through DECbridges onlyQUIVER::GAUDETTue Jul 06 1993 13:1318
    Ralph,
    
    DECagent 90 (V1.1) will not manage the hub through a DECbrouter 90.
    V1.1 supports auto-discovery and repeater management through the
    DECbridges (90 and 90FL) only.
    
    Since the DECbrouter 90 is not supported as the hub master, you should
    not see any other modules in the hub other than the DECagent 90
    (neither from HUBwatch nor from the agent console).  However, if you
    add a DECbridge to the hub and tell the agent about it (type, slot
    number, MAC address), all the modules (including the repeaters,
    DECbrouter and DECserver 90TL) should be discovered by the DECagent.
    Note that if your DECserver 90TL is the 1-Meg version, it will
    disappear from the hub unless you add it from HUBwatch with polling
    disabled.
    
    Roger Gaudet
    DECagent 90 devo.
273.3HUBwatch and Brouter managementHGOV08::GUPTAThu Aug 12 1993 00:3119
    Ref .1:
    
    Hi Bill,
    
    What do you mean when you say "..in fact V1.0 will manage both as
    STANDALONE devices" ? You mean Brouter, in order to be manageable by
    HUBwatch, should be outside the DEChub ?
    
    I have proposed to a customer three brouters in one DEChub (config
    shown in note 321.0). Will HUBwatch manage these brouters ? If not,
    which version of HUBwatch will have support for these multiple brouters
    in one DEChub ?
    
    I will appreciate if you can give me a pointer to some document which
    describes the manageability aspects of DECbrouter 90.
    
    Regards,
    Surender
            
273.4the HUBwatch and DECbrouter storyNAC::FORRESTFri Aug 13 1993 14:0627
   
> What do you mean when you say "..in fact V1.0 will manage both as
> STANDALONE devices" ? You mean Brouter, in order to be manageable by
> HUBwatch, should be outside the DEChub ?
   
	HUBwatch for Windows V1.0 has no support for the DECbrouter 90; 
	however, since it includes a network map and generic SNMP support, 
	you can add the DECbrouter, or any other SNMP-manageable device, 
	to the network map as a generic device.

	HUBwatch for Windows V1.1 will recognize all DEChub 90 modules 
	planned to ship through December 1993. You can do some management 
	with the MIB Browser - doesn't matter if it's in the hub or 
	standalone.

	HUBwatch for ULTRIX or OpenVMS V1.1 does not support the DECbrouter.

	HUBwatch for OpenVMS V2.0 in September will manage the DECbrouter 
	90 in the Hub or standalone.

>  I will appreciate if you can give me a pointer to some document which
>  describes the manageability aspects of DECbrouter 90.
  
	The DECbrouter manuals are at 
	TIMBER::USER8:[FANTASIA.BROUTER$PUBLIC]*.PS

	I think it is too complex to attempt to summarize here.