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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

158.0. "MCC/HUB90: error getting 802.1d span char" by CHILKA::JAGGI () Mon Feb 15 1993 14:17

    Hi,     
    
    On customer having 13 hubs, have tried to manage these hubs using
    DECmcc SNMP and with the private extension DIGITAL_HUB90_MIBDEF.TXT. 
    This was part of a demo to show management using DECmcc SNMP and 
    HUBwatch on PC. During the demo I met a problem that I share here if not 
    already known.
    
    When looking at the 802.1d spanning characteristing using all attributs,
    I received a fatal error :
    
            MCC>show Snmp .ip.hagen1 dot1dbridge dot1dstp all attr, by passw public2
    
                    SNMP .ip.hagen1 dot1dBridge dot1dStp
                    AT 28-JAN-1993 17:22:21 All Attributes
    
                    dot1dStpTimeSinceTopologyChange = 0
                    dot1dStpTopChanges = 0
    
                    Internal logic error 28 was encountered
    
    The configuration was as follows :
            o DECmcc V 1.2
            o SNMP AM V 1.1
            o The DECagent 90 was running firmware V 1.0
            o DECbridge90 firmware V 3.0
            o The DECagent 90 was installed as standalone unit.
            o The HUB 90 MIB definition :
              ------------------------------------------------------------------
              ---
              --  DECagent 90 and DEChub 90 Vendor MIB Document for SNMP V1implementation
              --
              --      Last updated    "Thu Oct 15 17:42:55 EDT 1992"  BLL
              --
              --------------------------------------------------------------------        - Is it the last HUB90 MIB extension version ?
            - If no, where could we found the last official version since
              it's not part of DECmcc kit ?
    
    
    My understanding is that spanning characteristics definition have nothing to
    see with MIB definition for the DEChub 90. Where the problem could be ?
    In the mib extension provided with DECmcc for HUB90, in the DECagent 90
    or in the DECbridge90, in the SNMP AM ?
    What could cause this internal logic error 28 ?
    
    I can get the spanning attributs of the bridge using HUBWATCH, so may be
    something wrong with DECagent90 reporting info received from DECbridge90 ?
    
    
    Any comments or suggestions ?
    Michel
    
    
    PS : I understand that managing the HUB directly from SNMP AM is not
         the most easy way and HUBwatch should be the prefered solution,
         however it should work.
    
    Note posted in MCC and HUB_MGNT
                                      
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158.1SNMP AM Internal Logic Errors.MOLAR::CHRISB::BRIENENNetwork Management Applications!Fri Feb 19 1993 09:3939
 SNMP AM V1.2 Internal Logic Errors
 -----------------------------------

 Internal Logic Errors occur when the AM encounters something unexpected.
 Most should never occur and indicate a fairly serious problem.
 Some are the result of a limitation in the AM that is encountered due
 to stress of MIB extension (e.g. MIB depth limitations in DECmcc V1.2,
 lifted in V1.3). Some are the result of bad stuff returned from the agent
 (ie, snmp protocol violations).


       	  Internal 		Description
        Logic Error
      ----------------  ---------------------------------------------------
	3		Error processing Handle (memory corruption)
*	4,9,10,11,12,17	Error processing object id (objid exceeds 32 items,
                        hard coded limitation in AM)
	6		Table index contains more than one variable length
                        component
	7,8,13,18	Buffer too small (internal routine call problem)
	14,16,19-22	Bad tranceiver control state
	15		Error trying to read dictionary (MIB extensions)
*	27,28,33	Bad value encountered in pdu returned from agent
*	29,40,41	Objid from agent not recognized as valid attribute
*	30		Bad data type encountered in pdu returned from agent
*	31		Error processing "hello" message
        32              Error reading internal tables (bad pointer)
*	35,36		Bad constructed Identifier
	39 		Error processing synthesized attributes
	42		Bad entity (internal call interface problem)
	43		Error sending packet (couldn't send all data)
	104,105 	Bad handle received from the sink.
	106 		Bad handle received from the PM.
	107 		Bad event code received from the sink
	108 		Bad partition (Attribute) received from the PM

	* May be due to bad info from agent

158.2More information...MOLAR::CHRISB::BRIENENNetwork Management Applications!Fri Feb 19 1993 10:2232
Our resident SNMP AM mib guru is on vacation for a few weeks, so I'm taking
a stab at supplying some information...

1. Internal Error codes -
   Note 158.1 lists the mapping of "SNMP AM V1.2 Internal Errors" to reality,
   as presented at CSC Training in June 1992 (one hopes these obscure codes
   will get mapped to real user errors in a future release of the AM).

      Error #28 = "Bad value encountered in pdu returned from agent".

   The SNMP AM provides a means of dumping packets for debugging problems
   like this, but I don't have the details at my fingertips.

2. Version of SNMP AM -
   The SNMP AM shipped with MCC V1.2, and had a version number of "V1.2"
   (V1.2 added generic trap support, which V1.1 did not have).

   Was the "SNMP AM V 1.1" mentioned in the base note a typo?

   Any chance this can be tried with the latest version of MCC?  V1.3
   had some significant fixes made to SNMP AM, particularly in the area
   of mib depth. (Bob H., I know you guys are running V1.3 at TAY!).

3. MIB version / date -
   The file DEC_HUB90_MIBDEF.TXT packaged with MCC V1.3 is dated 16-JUL-1992.
   There's no header in that file mentioning the "last update", but the
   one shipping with MCC V1.3 has NOT been updated after July 1992. Wanna
   try my version to see if it works?

Hope this helps...

						Chris
158.3There is spanning tree error in bridge 3.0EMDS::SEAVERBill Seaver, HUBwatch MktgFri Feb 26 1993 11:043
    There is a spanning tree error in the 3.0 bridge code.  I'm told 3.1
    fixes this.  I will check with bridge engineering to see if this is
    caused by the spanning tree error.
158.4not caused by bridgeEMDS::SEAVERBill Seaver, HUBwatch MktgFri Feb 26 1993 19:352
    Thisis not caused by the spanning tree error.  Will now check MCC and
    the agent.