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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

96.0. "Remote management with one DECagent" by LISVAX::ALVES () Thu Dec 03 1992 16:05

	Hello,

Can someone tell me if it's possible to have only one DECagent in one hub and get
remote management on another hub which is connect through a DECnis and a 
WANrouter90?


	+------------+			  +---------------+
	|A|          |			  |W|T|B|         |	
	|G|          |			  |R|S|R|	  | <-- Could this hub be
	|9|          |	   +--------+	  |9|9|9|	  |	managed?
	|0|          |	   | DECnis |-/-/-|0|0|0|	  |
	+------------+	   +--------+	  +---------------+
		|		|
		|		|
	    /=====================/

Thanks in advance for your time and co-operation
Regards
T.RTitleUserPersonal
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96.1Agent cannot manage across a routerEMDS::SEAVERLENAC Net Mgnt Mktg 223-4573Tue Dec 08 1992 20:445
    NO.  The agent only translates RBMS and MOP into SNMP.  RBMS and MOP
    are non-routable protocols and thus the agent will only manage hubs on
    the SAME LAN.  Print out EMDS::MANAGEMENT:HOW_AGENT_WORKS.PS to see a
    picture of this.
    
96.2Bridgeing would work - another perspectiveGUCCI::DMCCLOUDDennis McCloud - SOA ANCWed Dec 09 1992 10:4615
    Since the DECnis supports bridging then you can pass RBMS and MOP
    between the DECagent and the remote network.  If the configuration is
    slightly changed to have devices at either end which can bridge
    RBMS and MOP then the answer is yes.  The WANrouter 90 won't do this
    but when a module which fits in the DEChub that supports bridging
    and routing (unannounced product) then you could setup a bridged link.
    Change the WANrouter at the remote site with a DECnis 500 and you can
    bridge the too sites.  Another possible configuration would be to
    replace the DECnis with another brouter and you can bridge the two
    sites.
    
    One kicker for linking brouter to DECnis will be compatability with
    the link level protocols on the DECnis which today only bridges across
    a high-speed WANcontroller 622 and DEC HDLC.  Future link level protocols
    will at least give you a shot on connecting the two sites together.
96.3Remote DECagents?MSAM00::RAJEEVSUNDERHuber Bach...The Best!Tue Dec 15 1992 08:3510
    You could put an agent at each remote site.  Right?
    
    Also, I don't know how much polling the agent does, but I also wonder
    if it would take up much bandwidth in an extended LAN.
    
    Anyone know how much polling the agent does?
    
                             
    
    rajiv
96.4Agent Polling intervalEMDS::SEAVERLENAC Net Mgnt Mktg 223-4573Wed Dec 16 1992 17:413
    all I know is it polls every 20 seconds (fixed) and proxying does
    generate some traffic.  Terminal servers are the worst.
    
96.5DISCO fix it?GLDOA::MORRISONDaveThu Jan 14 1993 14:216
    Would a WANbrouter 90 tied back to a NIS routing port fix this? I
    understand that at least the repeaters (90T, 90C) can be managed
    through it if one uses TCP and SNMP as it's service. Is the WANbrouter
    90 also manageable from the central site via HUBwatch, aswell as the
    repeaters? Are we still looking at end of Q3 to get ship on the DISCO?
    Thanks.
96.6brouter manageable anywhere on WANEMDS::SEAVERLENAC Net Mgnt Mktg 223-4573Sun Jan 17 1993 21:045
     Brouter is manageable anywhere on WAN because it has its own SNMP
    agent and SNMP is a routable protocol.  I expect DISCO shipment to in
    Q4, but that is based on gut and nothing official.  Check EMDS::ALLEN
    for the official word.
    
96.7DISCO ship dateEMDS::SEAVERLENAC Net Mgnt Mktg 223-4573Tue Jan 19 1993 10:2136
From:	EMDS::ALLEN        "STEVE ALLEN - HUB PRD MKTING - 223-3951" 18-JAN-1993 09:40:34.45
To:	EMDS::SEAVER
CC:	
Subj:	RE: Do you have ship date for brouter 96.5

Bill,

currently we are targeted an announcement at Interop 93 with availability 
by or before the end of March 93.


Steve


From:	EMDS::SEAVER "LENAC Net Mgnt Mktg 223-4573  17-Jan-1993 2104" 17-JAN-1993 21:05:01.69
To:	allen
CC:	SEAVER
Subj:	Do you have ship date for brouter 96.5



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    Would a WANbrouter 90 tied back to a NIS routing port fix this? I
    understand that at least the repeaters (90T, 90C) can be managed
    through it if one uses TCP and SNMP as it's service. Is the WANbrouter
    90 also manageable from the central site via HUBwatch, aswell as the
    repeaters? Are we still looking at end of Q3 to get ship on the DISCO?
    Thanks.