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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

80.0. "HUBWATCH and third party devices?" by CGOS01::DMARLOWE (PDP 11: MOV -(PC),-(PC)) Mon Nov 16 1992 10:55

    Will HUBWATCH for Windows only be able to handle the DECagent? 
    Or will we be able to add MIBs for say, 3COM 10BaseT repeaters?
    
    dmm
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80.1HUBwatch for Windows and non-DEC equipmentEMDS::SEAVERLENAC Net Mgnt Mktg 223-4573Mon Nov 30 1992 22:275
    HUBwatch for Windows can read any MIB.  See
    EMDS::MANAGEMENT:WINDOWS_SETUP.TXT and try it yourself.  There is a MIB
    display secton and MIB walks of the extensions are also possible.  
    
    Graphical displays of other devices are NOT supported.
80.2V1.0 has a MIB Browser, but not a CompilerMEMIT::FORRESTWed Dec 16 1992 12:5110
	To add some clarification, HUBwatch for Windows includes a MIB 
	Browser, but it does not include a MIB Compiler. The difference 
	is that with only a MIB Browser, you need a paper copy of the 
	MIB in front of you to make any sense of it. A MIB Compiler would 
	add the MIB to the database of understood objects.

	I'm guessing that Version 2.0, next summer, would have a Compiler.

	jack
80.3More questions.CGOS01::DMARLOWEdsk dsk dsk (tsk tsk tsk)Tue Apr 27 1993 15:597
    I didn't figure you'd get any graphics with 3rd party devices but
    what could HUBWATCH display of such a device?  How much management
    could be done this way?  What would it look like under WINDOWS?
    
    How would this work with HUBWATCH for VMS?

    dave
80.4HUBwatch is an element managerEMDS::SEAVERBill Seaver, HUBwatch MktgThu May 27 1993 23:3017
    HUBwatch for VMS and HUBwatch for ULTRIX are element mangers.  They are
    only designed to manage DEChubs.  They do not even have a map function,
    thus they currently cannot manage anything other than DEChubs.  To do
    that you need to layer them on top of a Network Management System (NMS)
    such as POLYCENTER.  POLYCENTER will manage other devices as an icon
    and also will show you SNMP variables associated with other devices. 
    If the other device is something that POLYCENTER has an element manager
    for, you can get even more management.  Is you substitute another NMS
    for POLYCENTER in the section above, you will obviously get the ability
    to launch other element mangers.

    As to HUBwatch for Windows, the current version includes a NMS that can
    give icons of SNMP devices (in fact anything it can PING) and also SNMP
    MIB data (including a MIB walk feature).  By December, Windows will be
    just like the others (an element manger) but we expect it will be
    launchable from HP OpenView and thus will have the option of adding
    other element mangers to manage other devices.
80.5MIB Complier for HUBwatch 2.0 ??HGOVC::GUPTAFri Jul 23 1993 07:2325
    Ref .2:
    
    Will HUBwatch for Windows V2.0 have MIB compiler ? Any latest info ?
    
    One of my customer is asking "What if I decide to buy some third-party
    devices in future ? How will I manage them ?"
    
    I have been told that in case MIB compiler is available, we can manage
    ANY third party device. IF IT IS TRUE, IS IT SAFE TO TELL THE CUSTOMER
    "WITH HUBWATCH FOR WINDOWS V2.0 (DEC 1993 ??), WE WILL MANAGE ANY
    THIRD-PARTY DEVICE" ?
    
    What is the current situation with HUBwatch for windows ? Is it safe to
    say "Any bridge with RFC 1286 and Repeater with RFC 1368 is manageable
    by HUBwatch for Windows V1.0". Any information on bridges/repeaters
    which implement these RFCs ? In that case, I can tell these
    bridges/repeaters to the customer and sound more convincing (I need to 
    do a lot of selling to this customer and Network Management can help me
    make the sale !!).
    
    Thanks a lot for your attention.
    
    Regards, 
    Surender
    
80.6MIB compiler and other features optional with HUBwatch for Windows 2.0NAC::FORRESTMon Jul 26 1993 19:0232
>   Will HUBwatch for Windows V2.0 have MIB compiler ? Any latest info ?
 
We plan to move to a model with V2.0 that is similar to the VMS and ULTRIX 
model. HUBwatch 2.0 will run standalone or it can be launched from a fully 
featured Windows-based NMS. The MIB compiler would come with the optional 
NMS.

>   I have been told that in case MIB compiler is available, we can manage
>   ANY third party device. IF IT IS TRUE, IS IT SAFE TO TELL THE CUSTOMER
>   "WITH HUBWATCH FOR WINDOWS V2.0 (DEC 1993 ??), WE WILL MANAGE ANY
>   THIRD-PARTY DEVICE" ?
 
If the customer sufficently understands SNMP and MIBs, he can probably 
manage most devices. There are some devices, which expect some objects 
to be set simultaneously, and this is not always obvious.
   

>   What is the current situation with HUBwatch for windows ? Is it safe to
>   say "Any bridge with RFC 1286 and Repeater with RFC 1368 is manageable
>   by HUBwatch for Windows V1.0"

I think it safe to say that HUBwatch for Windows V1.0 includes support for 
those MIBs. I can't vouch for interoperability, since we haven't done much 
testing.

>   Any information on bridges/repeaters which implement these RFCs ? 

No, but you might try to find it in one of Ed Mier's reviews in Communications 
Week. If I find something, I'll try to post it here.