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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

60.0. "DISCO questions" by WARNUT::64021::Tim_Banks (851-1646 What Ho!) Tue Sep 15 1992 13:13

I ask these questions here only because I need rapid answers to meet a 
deadline for a $0.5M RFP and PM have not come back with a response to my 
mail.  I'm getting desperate!

These questions are with regards to the DISCO brouter (cisco/DEC joint 
project), 

        1. will it support NCL?
        2. will the bridging work with a NIS on the other end?
        3. will it support Manually configured reachable addressing?
        4. will it support manually configured adjacencies?
        5. will it support Integrated IS-IS (i.e. real Phase V as per
        NIS)?
        6. Will it support X.21 bis (i.e. leased line X.21)?
        7. will it do all this in V1.0?

Thanks for the help

Tim

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60.1replyEMDS::SEAVERLENAC Net Mgnt Mktg 223-4573Fri Sep 25 1992 17:221
    reply was sent directly to mr Banks and I do not have a copy.
60.2DECbrouter 90 'disco' functionalityWARNUT::PC0533::Tim_BanksWot Ho!Tue Oct 27 1992 08:3144
Here are the answers I got to the previous questions.

They beg some more questions, particularly the comment about 'if IGS does 
it now, so will the DECbrouter'.  Does this mean other cisco features will 
be implemented?

Tim
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         1. will it support NCL?

NO.  You have to TELNET or MOP or LAT to it to set DECnet parameters.

>        2. will the bridging work with a NIS on the other end?

Yes, it should, but only if the NIS people implement the PPP extension
for Bridging and accept Cisco's bridge options.  My understanding is
that NIS does NOT do this today, but will in a future release.

>        3. will it support Manually configured reachable addressing?

I don't know.  We didin't explicitly ask for it in the requiresments
document, but if the Cisco IGS does it now, it will also be in Brut.

>        4. will it support manually configured adjacencies?

I don't know.  We didin't explicitly ask for it in the requiresments
document, but if the Cisco IGS does it now, it will also be in Brut.

>        5. will it support Integrated IS-IS (i.e. real Phase V as per 
>        NIS)?

Yes, we asked for this, and won't ship it until it works.

>        6. will it do all this in V1.0?

It is likely that:
	- It will never do NCL
	- The DISCO side of bridging will be in our V1.0, you will have
	  to ask the NIS group when they will have PPP.
	- Integrated IS-IS will be in 1.0
although, what you call 1.0 is actually "9.2".


60.3PPP Bridging on NIS in V2.0MARVIN::COBBGraham R. Cobb (DECNIS development), REO2-G/G9, 830-3917Tue Nov 17 1992 15:4017
I know this note is old but it is a while since I looked in here...

> >        2. will the bridging work with a NIS on the other end?
> 
> Yes, it should, but only if the NIS people implement the PPP extension
> for Bridging and accept Cisco's bridge options.  My understanding is
> that NIS does NOT do this today, but will in a future release.

We are  shipping  PPP  Bridging  in the DECNIS inV2.0 (before Christmas this
year).   I  *think*  that cisco bridging over PPP requires at least V9.1 and
that  is currently unavailable (rumour has it that they are having stability
problems  with 9.1 and have delayed releasing it).  We are trying to get 9.1
here  for interoperation testing.  However, our PPP testing to date leads us
to  believe  that  it  will  work as long as Cisco implement the spec (and I
expect they will): it currently works with other vendors.

Graham
60.4HUBwatch and DISCO ?ANNECY::POULAINWed Jan 20 1993 11:467
What is going to be the support from HUBwatch ? If I understand well, since the
s/w will be Cisco's 9.x, it'll have SNMP in it right away. Will HUBwatch be able
to manage it directly (no need for DECagent ?) ? What kind of graphics ? If
HUBwatch is able to manage it directly, what would prevent it to manage ANY Cisco
router which is out there ? 

Francois 
60.5DECagent 90 not needed to manage DECbrouter 90 DEChubs, DECbridge 90s, or DECserver 90Ls or L+s by a router.MEMIT::FORRESTWed Jan 20 1993 15:1511
	My understanding is that the DECbrouter 90 will have GETS, but not 
	SETS - same as cisco. The DECagent 90 isn't needed to manage the 
	DECbrouter 90 - HUBwatch will talk to it directly. You will need 
	to use TELNET to change parameters in the module.

	I would guess that to the extent that other cisco devices have 
	identical MIBs, they would be manageable with HUBwatch. We have 
	no plans though to manage cisco's entire product line with HUBwatch.

	jack