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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

59.0. "Management of DECserver 200/300 by DECagent" by ONOIS1::GAIRNS () Mon Sep 14 1992 11:39

    I am looking to manage a network of DECserver 200s,  DECserver 300s,
    and DECHub hardware in a Wide Area network.
    
    If I understand correctly, the DECagent 90 uses MOP cosole carrier to
    manage the DECserver 90*
    
    As the DECserver 200/300 can also be managed by MOP CC, what prevents
    me from managing these as well by the DECagent 90?
    
    This would allow me to use SNMP over the WAN with  DECagent 90 on each
    LAN.
    
    Or what have I got wrong?
    
    Thanks for your help
    
    Ian Gairns
    
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59.1Doesn't speak that language.NAC::D_NELSONDave Nelson LKG2-2/BB9 226-5358Mon Sep 14 1992 14:2316
    RE: .0
    
    The MOP console carrier session between the DECagent 90 and its target
    (e.g. DECserver200/300) uses normal user interface commands for the
    target to accomplish the management.  The DECagent 90 translates
    between SNMP and user commands.
    
    The problem is that the DECserver200/300 have one command format
    (common to DECserver100/200/300/500/90TL) and the DECserver 90L/90L+
    have another command format.  The missing piece is the translation
    for the commands the DS200/300 use.
    
    Regards,
    
    Dave
     
59.2What stops us supporting 200/300...formats?ONOIS1::GAIRNSTue Sep 15 1992 05:0712
    RE .1  Thanks for your answer which begs the question:
    
    So what intention (if any) is there to support the other command format
    and offer a total terminal server management solution with a single
    graphical interface.
    
    This would help out my customers who are evolving to HUBs but have a
    large installation of DECserver 200s and ULTRIX.
    
    Thanks 
    
    Ian 
59.3foEMDS::SEAVERLENAC Net Mgnt Mktg 223-4573Thu Sep 17 1992 10:4313
    I am looking at adding the ability for the DECagent to speak DS200/300
    MOP.  These devices would then show up as an icon on any SNMP management
    system.  The icon would also have error conditions associated with it. 
    I do not intend to give a graphical interface to these machines as is
    done in HUBwatch..  Given that would your customer be interested in
    spending $2500 (one DECagent 90) per 10 DECservers to have them speak
    SNMP???  If so, how many would your customer be willing to buy?  Please
    also send mail directly to me at EMDS::SEAVER.

    Note- this is a general question to all readers of this notes
    conference.  We will proxy for DS 200/300 (and 100s) if there is a
    market.  You need to tell me what the market is.  It is technically
    possible.
59.4the market is HUGE.....ONOIS1::GAIRNSFri Oct 02 1992 14:1421
    I believe that my customer would be willing to buy the product at the
    aforesaid price with an initial command for around 10 DECagents.
    
    I see a considerable market for such a product and not only in the
    Ultrix environment.
    Any VMS customer who has a distributed network with DECserver 100/200
    and/or MUXservers on remote LANs interconnected by routers is currently in
    a mess to manage his network centrally (one of my current problems).
    Your product is cheaper than TSM on each LAN AND it allows me to
    centralise network management on a PC or DECmcc platform.
    As the network uses routers (Digitals) I can upgrade the router
    software to a WANrouter and thereby send TCP/IP over my network. So the
    only real investment remotely is the DECagent.
    I don't see any other DECmcc solution coming rapidly to my aid at such
    a competitive price.
    So when can I announce it to my customer?
    
    Will anybody else out there back me up? 
    
    Ian Gairns   EIS France