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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

57.0. "Reseting DECbridge 90 password" by CGOOA::BARNABE (Guy Barnabe (DIS) Regina/Canada) Tue Aug 25 1992 01:40

    As I cannot find my doc, how does one change the password on a
    DECbridge 90? Or reset it?
    
    -- cheers,
       Guy
    
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57.1Use the pushbutton, then define a new passwordMEMIT::FORRESTThu Aug 27 1992 13:347
According to the documentation, you press the recessed pushbutton on the 
front bezel to clear the password.

To assign a new password, use the DEFINE BRIDGE PASSWORD command, once 
you're conected via MOP.

jack
57.2It seems a bit more complicatedBSS::AMBERMark Amber, CXO3 LAN Mgr. (DTN)592-4645Fri Apr 23 1993 14:1518
Yeah, the book simply says that the button is used for resetting the password,
but its not quite that simple.

The only way I've figured out how to do it is to power off the bridge, press
and hold the reset button while you power it on (which is awkward in a Hub)
and then the bridge lights go into a sequencing pattern which can't be cleared
until another power cycle.

This seems to work for me, but is that really the proper sequence (two power
cycles)?

-Mark

P.S. It also seems that you have to clear the password before loading new
     software.  This is not stated in the bridge loading documentation and
     it requires physical intervention even if you know the current password.
     Is there a was to clear the password via command, or to download when
     you know the password?
57.3A working bridge doesn't require such nonsensePRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeffrey A. LomickaFri May 28 1993 09:2348
>Yeah, the book simply says that the button is used for resetting the password,
>but its not quite that simple.

Yes, it is that simple. Just press the button and *poof* the password
is gone.  If it doesn't work for you, there is something wrong with
your bridge.  It is *possible* that you don't hold the button in long
enough - it checks the switch every 10ms.  That's a very short time. 
This is well tested and is known to work in all bridge sosftwre revisions.

Also, if you know the existing password, you can change it with the
DEFINE BRIDGE PASS command.

>The only way I've figured out how to do it is to power off the bridge, press
>and hold the reset button while you power it on (which is awkward in a Hub)
>and then the bridge lights go into a sequencing pattern which can't be cleared
>until another power cycle.

This is the manufacturing self test, and is not needed to reset the password.
However, it will reset the password as a side effect.

>This seems to work for me, but is that really the proper sequence (two power
>cycles)?

No, this is NOT the proper sequence.

>P.S. It also seems that you have to clear the password before loading new
>     software.  This is not stated in the bridge loading documentation and
>     it requires physical intervention even if you know the current password.
>     Is there a was to clear the password via command, or to download when
>     you know the password?

This is also a double-lie.

1 - The bridge softwre upgrade documentation states clearly that the
paassword must be 8 characters or fewer to perform the upgrade, but it
may be present.  This is because the MOP protocol does not have a
provision for passwords longer than 8 characters.  Using NCP, you have
to convert the password to hexadecimal.  NDU is more friendly.  This is
in both the official documentation that will come out with the 3.1
release through SDC, and in the documentation that I wrote regarding
the upgrade procedure used internally.

2 - You can use the DEFINE BRIDGE PASSWORD command to change the
password to nothing (just hit return) - which is the same as deleting
the password or pressing the button.  You can then upgrade the bridge
across the network without having to mess with hex conversions or NDU
password strings.