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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

36.0. "Novell NMS support?" by PHONE::SHEN () Wed Mar 04 1992 15:01

    I saw Novell has Netware Management System (NMS) on DOS and OS/2
    window. More than 50 third party vendors support it. Anyone get more
    detail information? Is it easy to write Access Module (DECmcc term) for
    little intelligent hub and adapters? Will DEC hub support it? Also I
    heard Novell announced Hub management interface (proprietary) for 10
    BASE T card in the Novell server? Anyone has more detail information?
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36.1Jack Forrest is meeting iwth NovellEMDS::SEAVERLENAC Net Mgnt Mktg 223-4573Thu Mar 05 1992 08:221
    Jack (MEMIT::FORREST) is meeting with Novell next week to explore this.
36.2lowdown on Novell mgt stuffMEMIT::FORRESTFri Mar 13 1992 13:3342
Hugh Bowen and I met with Novell in San Jose. We were told that the "hub 
card spec" development had moved to Utah, where the driver development is 
located. Novell's strategy is to drive the hardware price as low as it can 
go, and they would sell the software to go with it. It seems they are trying 
to get the industry margin on repeaters down to the adapter card level.

Novell has created the spec (HMI) that describes the repeater card's interface
to their management software. Novell will sell (direct or OEM) a piece of 
software called HUBCON for $250, that runs on the PC where the hub cards 
are installed. It allows you to do menu-driven repeater management and to 
look at traffic and error statistics. The HMI spec describes a data structure 
that implements much of the IEEE hub management spec.

The combination of the hub cards and the HUBCON software will likely be the 
low end standard that the industry will follow. For all the thousands of 
sites with fewer than 50 nodes, this will be what they will buy. The user 
can start off with 12 ports and expand in groups of 12. LENAC is looking 
into having a product in this space.


Novell is also developing Netware Management Services, or NMS, for short.
It costs $4995. It can manage SNMP over IPX. For an additional $1995, you 
get the first "enhancement" package, which gives you SNMP over IP and a 
better network map capability. There are 2 versions - OS/2 and Windows. 
The development of one is independent from the other, so releases will be 
asynchronous. You'll see common functionality on the two, and other features 
that exist on one, but not the other. Besides network management, you get 
Netware management.

At $6990, the product isn't competitive with other PC-based SNMP network 
management products. I think users will buy it because it allows them to 
combine Netware and network management on one system.

The NMS product isn't shipping yet; they will roll it out in pieces, 
with the first piece coming out in April. They will produce a development 
kit for third party developers, which will also start rollout in April. But 
SNMP over IP won't be in the first release. LENAC will continue to track 
the development.

Note that you don't have to install any of this on the Netware Server. Any 
PC with enough horsepower to run Windows is OK for the NMS, and a 286 is 
fine for the hub cards and HUBCON.