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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:	DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:	Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:	NETCAD::COLELLADT

Created:	Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	4455
Total number of notes:	16761

20.0. "Boot Rom requirements" by SUBWAY::SMITH () Thu Jan 09 1992 17:29

Is there a policy established about the use of network boot versus BOOT ROM's
for DEChub components?

My customer supplies his online transaction services products through equipment
he installs in his customers' locations.  He wants to install telnet terminal
servers that boot from BOOTROM, to avoid dependance on customer network 
components.

Is there an obstacle to providing this in upcoming TELNET-based terminal server
products?

Regards,

Dave Smith

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
20.1	You _have_ to boot this puppy off the net	NOHOST::LEVIN	Bryan, LENaC Engineering, MLO3-3/U39	`Thu Jan 09 1992 20:05`	25
	If I understand you correctly: You want to know if the soon-to-come telnet terminal server for the DEChub can selectively get it's image code from either on-board ROM _OR_ via the network? As I understand it, this server _requires_ a MOP load host to get its run-time image from. This could be a DECnet host, or something that supports MOP DLL capability. Now, it's documented that the server 'supports BOOTP', but this is _very_ misleading. Colloquially, BOOTP sort of implies TFTP; a UNIX "MOP/DLL", if you will. But, I believe that this server uses BOOTP _just_ to resolve it's IP address, given it's own MAC address. That's all. So, this means that you'll need a MOP load host, or the thing will keep asking to be fed, ad nauseum ;-) Does this answer your question? I'm not familiar with any special meaning to "BOOTROM" that you referred to. .bl
20.2		EMDS::SEAVER	LENAC Net Mgnt Mktg 223-4573	`Thu Jan 09 1992 22:01`	2
	I have forewarded your message to MEMIT::DUNBECK who is the product manager for terminal servers.
20.3	Boot ROM a year away	EMDS::SEAVER	LENAC Net Mgnt Mktg 223-4573	`Tue Jan 14 1992 21:30`	12
	From: MEMIT::DUNBECK "LENAC Product Management, DTN 223-2011" 9-JAN-1992 23:01:54.49 Dave, I assume by BOOT ROM that you mean a ROM card which is inserted into the termial server to boot the software. This will not be a feature of the soon to be announced terminal servers. We are discussing this as a possible feature for future designs. These would be at least 10-12 months away. Pete D
20.4		NAC::D_NELSON	Dave Nelson LKG2-2/BB9 226-5358	`Tue Oct 13 1992 18:31`	20
	RE: .1 This note is quite old, but just for the record: > Now, it's documented that the server 'supports BOOTP', but this is > _very_ misleading. Colloquially, BOOTP sort of implies TFTP; a UNIX > "MOP/DLL", if you will. The DS90TL product has a TFTP/UDP/IP stack in the ROM, so the document is not misleading in the least. > But, I believe that this server uses BOOTP > _just_ to resolve it's IP address, given it's own MAC address. That's > all. No. The server in question indeed does load it's image from BOOTP/TFTP hosts. Several U*ix systems are supported.
20.5	Flash ram on next version?	NOHOST::LEVIN	Bryan, LENaC Engineering, MLO3-3/U39	`Tue Oct 13 1992 19:29`	10
	RE: .-1 Yes, when I wrote my first reply, it was after I saw a very early functional spec. BTW, I believe the next version of the TL will support flash ram, so you only have to load its software at upgrade time. (Or am I thinking of another product?) .bl
20.6		NAC::D_NELSON	Dave Nelson LKG2-2/BB9 226-5358	`Thu Oct 15 1992 14:36`	10
	RE: .5 Well, yes. The next product will have Flash RAM. I say this subject to the Moderator's discretion, because we're talking about unannounced product here. Regards, Dave