Conference 7.286::atarist

>    I want the ST to communicate with the VAX.
>    Knowing that it must be possible I looked through many of the notes.
>    I'm confused now.
>    
>    What hard- and software requirements are there and how do I get them?

    All you need is a terminal cable to connect from the 3100 (DECconnect)
    to the ST (RS232-C), and terminal programs for both ends.

    For the cable I would get a DECconnect cable with the correct (male/female)
    adapter to go to the ST.  I would recommend you use the printer port (TTA3)
    on your 3100 since the terminal port won't do modem controls correctly. You
    can get the cable and adapter from DEC-Direct (US)1-800-DIGITAL.

    For software, it all depends on what kind of communication you want to do.
	1) File transfers/terminal access.
	    If this is part of an official DEC thing, I would look at Jeff's
	    Whack.  You would need to talk with Jeff and your manager to find
	    out if your 3100 counts as Digital use.
	    If you cannot use Whack, I would use CKERMIT on both ends.  You
	    should be able to find both versions here on the net.
	2) Terminal access only.
	    On the ST to VAX side, FLASH, UNITERM, WHACK(If you are allowed), or
	    any other Comm program that does VT emulation.
	    On the VAX to ST side, you can use SET HOST/DTE, but then you
	    would need a CLI that can accept input from the modem port.
	3) Some other kinda of special communications.  You would need custom
	    programs that talk what ever protcol you use.

    Jim

    Thanks Jim, I'm starting today to sort things out.
    
    Sjaak Bosman.

    Of course what we really want is for someone to code DECNET-ST so we
    can use SETHOST, NFT and PCSA!!  8*)
    
    Tony 

    Hi,
    
    I started this topic, so here is the configuration I ended up with.
    
    ATARI                          VAX
    -------//RS-232---------TTA1:\\--------
    Uniterm                        C-Kermit
    
    I simply connect the terminal-cable from my VT420 to the RS-232 port of
    the Atari (via a female-adapter ofcourse).
    
    Terminal-emulation (Uniterm) and file-transfer (Uniterm and C-Kermit)
    are working both very well. At first I tried WHACK but somehow I wasn't
    able to run it properly (OPCOM message about 'not wired correctly').
    
    Especially I like the Single Line Editor, because I do a lot of
    ALL-IN-1 stuff and in ALL-IN-1 you only can get the last entered line
    back.
    
    Now I'm also able to transfer files from/to the portfolio, using the
    Mega ST as in between.
    
    Thanks everyone who contributed this conference on this topic.
    
    Sjaak.

    Hi,
    
    I've notice that there's a version V2.0 E15 of Uniterm ... but in ZOO
    format. I've found ZOO 2.1 but ... also in ZOO format.
    
    Where can I get an unZOOed version of ZOO or Uniterm V2.0 E15?
    
    Thanks for your help,
    Sjaak.

oldtmr::$1$dua8:[wallace.public.st]uni20e11.arc

If you don't have ARC for the ST, you can extract them using
arc for VMS, arc for Ultrix, or VMSsweep for VMS.

	Ray

    Ray,
    
    Then, what are the differences between UNI20E11 and UNI20E15? I already
    use UNI20E11. And UNI20E15 ia only available in ZOO format.
    
    Thanks for your help.
    
    Sjaak.

    
    Sjaak, you might want to look into 
    
    UFRCS2::DISK$FS:[FALKENSTEIN.ATARI.COMPRESS] for ZOO.TOS
    
    this self-extracting archive contains several versions of Zoo including
    some shells for Zoo. You don't need a (un)packer programm, simply
    doubleclick on that file when you have it on your Atari. It will
    extract into a folder called "ZOO" with the related subdirectories if
    there are any.
    
    In [.ATARI.MODEM] is also UNI20E11.TOS (also selfextracting). If you
    have the location of version E15 I would be very much interested to 
    add it to the library.
    
    Bernd
    
    
    
    

    Bernd,
    
    Thanks for that pointer. Concerning E15, I've read about it in this
    conference, see topic 9.330. Below you'll find a substract of it.
    
    Regards,
    Sjaak
    
================================================================================
Note 9.330               Software available on the E-net              330 of 342
SMURF::COUTU "He who will not risk, cannot win."     13 lines  28-FEB-1992 15:20
                  -< New release of Uniterm, bug fixes only >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    VERMNT::/usr1/st/uniterm/uniterm.20e.015.zoo is a brand new bug
    fix release of uniterm. The previous release was a couple years
    ago, rev. 11. This is rev.15. For those who prefer the distribution
    is also available as a compressed tar file name uniterm.20e.015.tar.Z
    
etc.
================================================================================

Sorry about that Sjaak. I was using Uniterm at the time so I checked the
version I was using and it was the version you wanted, I then proceeded to
point you to the directory where I keep Uniterm. As it turns out it wasn't the
version I was running and I didn't pay close enough attention to the versio
nnumber in the file name.

I don't recall what the differences are between the two versions. I used
2.0e 010 for a long time with no problems.

	Ray

    Ray,
    
    I don't have problems either, I'm rather enthusiast. Maybe bugs fixed
    in parts that I don't use.
    
    Well, keep you informed if know more about UNI20E15.
    
    
    Regards,
    Sjaak.

UNI20E15.ARC is now in oldtmr::$1$dua8:[wallace.public.st]

All I did was repackaged the .ZOO file made available by an earlier note. I
have not tried downloading this file, but have no reason to believe it is not
in working order.

	Ray